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DT Swiss, 36 step star ratchet upgrade.

Discussion in 'Downhill & Freeride' started by rockofullr, Oct 22, 2012.

  1. rockofullr

    rockofullr confused

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    Anyone tried it?

    Is it as reliable and indestructible as the original?

    Disclaimer: Not strictly DH but screw you guys I run a DT Swiss hub on my "DH" bike.
     

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  2. 'size

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    i upgraded to them in my 240s on my trail bike in august of 2009 - zero issues so far.
     
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    Had a set of 440 hubs that I upgraded did t have them a long time but they saw bad weather and some hard riding.
    The guy that has them now has been beating g on them for 2+ years now and no maintenance issues that ive heard of yet the 36 star is still going strong...
     
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    The drop in reliability on the 36t ratchet is pretty well documented. I was going to upgrade but held off after reading up on it.
     
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    daisycutter Turbo Monkey

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    I have 2 hubs that have been upgraded for over 2 years no issues. If I rember correctily they changed the ratchet to a harder metal
     
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    100 dh days on a 36t upgrade with no problem here.
     
  7. rockofullr

    rockofullr confused

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    I've heard rumors of such a thing but I don't understand how it could happen. The contact area on a star ratchet is still HUGE compared to a pawl system.

    I just rebuilt my 2 DT hubs over the weekend and after years of abuse the star ratchets still look like new.
     
  8. bullcrew

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    Slap a 36th I. Run it keep your 18 as back up its simple to swap out and go ride. That's what I did, I kept mine in case someone needed it....
     
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    Udi RM Chief Ornithologist: “I Brake for Birds”

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    http://forums.mtbr.com/wheels-tires/dt-swiss-36-star-ratchet-upgrade-pros-cons-765625.html

    There's plenty of discussion about it. I think the key is to make sure the springs push the ratchets together properly, and are lubricated very lightly. I'd personally either use a very light film of the genuine DT product, or just a thick oil and re-lube a little more often - given how easy it is to do.

    The chromed steel on the current 18T and 36T ratchets is very hard and the mode of failure won't be from wear / lack of lubrication, but rather from skipping due to using grease that's too sticky. Keep it clean and lightly lubed and I think you'll be good.
     
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    Had mine on my 440's for two seasons now and still zippy problems. Go for it bro.
     
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    I installed a set on an older gentlemans Stumpy 29er. He's got nearly 6000 miles on that setup and it's holding up great. Wouldn't it be great to be retired and do nothing but ride.
     
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    I have the 36t plates in my 440 on my trailbike for a couple seasons, works great...
     
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    It's time for a hub service and you guys have convinced me to try the upgrade. I blame you all if this ends badly.
     
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    Lol we will blame it on jonkranked since he isn't in this thread he can't defend himself...:thumb:

    You won't be sorry, its one of the nicest upgrades and if it fails its one mod the easiest to redo...the extra engagement will be nice...