I can see what you're saying, but all they really have to do is remove a few of the less useful features/adjustments from current Marzocchi stuff, provide some actual technical documentation and they'll be on a winner - provided they can get the stuff manufactured. Seems like a big job for half a dozen guys, I'd agree, but good on them for giving it a crack. If they keep the product line small enough to begin with, and don't try to reinvent the wheel, they should do fine, because they have a pretty good starting point.Brought to you by the makers of the 2008 888s, the RC2 and 3 carts with just a coil spring over a washer for damping, ATA and the 7lb Z150?
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see more stuff along the lines of the LATEST damping technology used by Marzocchi, what fox has been using nearly all along, and what RS has come up with in the last few years, but these guys are biting off a HUGE chunk by assuming they'll be able to compete.
I give it 3yrs. I could be wrong, but this kind of idea almost never works. Sometimes it does though...
as well as the current crop of amazing forksBrought to you by the makers of the 2008 888s, the RC2 and 3 carts with just a coil spring over a washer for damping, ATA and the 7lb Z150?
No, no, no, and no.Brought to you by the makers of the 2008 888s, the RC2 and 3 carts with just a coil spring over a washer for damping, ATA and the 7lb Z150?
Oh, I know that for sure, but they put out that stuff, worked for the company. I guess this is them finally "taking a stand", but it's after marzocchi came out with some good stuff finally (cloned avalanche cartridges, etc) and after they tried to pass off all that crap on us. So at this point, it makes no sense to me and seems self-defeating. Now you've got the worst situation, strong products from all makers, no big "gap". There have always been "three" big makers, although there's nothing that says it HAS to be three, but we have seen that it is fairly consistent. Manitou was pushed out by Fox, due to crappy quality and designs, and this would honestly make a lot more sense if we were in 2009. Damping-wise we are in the best of times, with strong products from all big makers, no real "niche" to fill. Avalanche has the carts covered for older forks, but most people that just buy new ones will benefit from the stuff that's been developed, and there's just no real wiggle room. I'm sure this company will get some initial offerings out there, get some publicity, but it just seems like the worst idea at the worst time.No, no, no, and no.
Those were come up with by Marzocchi Italy. The US guys just had to deal with it.
They will have some very legitimate offerings once they surface.
Just.....please shut up.Oh, I know that for sure, but they put out that stuff, worked for the company. I guess this is them finally "taking a stand", but it's after marzocchi came out with some good stuff finally (cloned avalanche cartridges, etc) and after they tried to pass off all that crap on us. So at this point, it makes no sense to me and seems self-defeating. Now you've got the worst situation, strong products from all makers, no big "gap". There have always been "three" big makers, although there's nothing that says it HAS to be three, but we have seen that it is fairly consistent. Manitou was pushed out by Fox, due to crappy quality and designs, and this would honestly make a lot more sense if we were in 2009. Damping-wise we are in the best of times, with strong products from all big makers, no real "niche" to fill. Avalanche has the carts covered for older forks, but most people that just buy new ones will benefit from the stuff that's been developed, and there's just no real wiggle room. I'm sure this company will get some initial offerings out there, get some publicity, but it just seems like the worst idea at the worst time.
It's new, different, and not a lot of people have them. See Carbon, 29ers, 650b, and avalanche carts.Is there really money to be made in this segment?
scarcity + rarity = moar desiresA psychological edge is still an edge.
ok story time?So I can buy marzocchi products again without supporting bryson martin (Sr.) ??
That's awesome!!
Lol. I was thinking the same. They need to get DW on board to get the RM hype train rolling properly though.just noticed that DVO already has water bottles, hats, and shirts ready to schwag. Wasn't there another company that put marketing first before product? What was their name? How did they end up?
Yes well, they actually already have products designed and prototypes in production. I think that must be a record speed for the bike industry. So..ya...Lol. I was thinking the same. They need to get DW on board to get the RM hype train rolling properly though.
two weeks?Yes well, they actually already have products designed and prototypes in production. I think that must be a record speed for the bike industry. So..ya...
you must be new to the internet, i already pre-ordered the entire first run of production, and got free shippingpolishing mums credit card already?
and matching I9 wheels, which they wouldn't let you build at home.you must be new to the internet, i already pre-ordered the entire first run of production, and got free shipping
Not quite, many months away I'm sure. I tried, but could pry a date from their engineer last night. (no homo, just so we're clear about that last sentence)two weeks?
+1. wait, +2.So I can buy marzocchi products again without supporting bryson martin (Sr.) ??
That's awesome!!
As much as I like my Avalanche cart, I think the allure is starting to wane. After a while it makes no sense because all the forks in circulation have decent damping. Its good to hop-up older stuff, but that market has to be small and getting smaller.It's new, different, and not a lot of people have them. See Carbon, 29ers, 650b, and avalanche carts.
A psychological edge is still an edge.
Flat Foot Technology FTW (For the Women)silly question. of course they have. Just like electra can patent geometry where "the seat angle is pretty slack"
son of a b!tch. is he goin to DVO too?Ronnie Dilan also left Marzocchi (announced today).
Yeah I think he is going to DVO.son of a b!tch. is he goin to DVO too?
link?
it seems to have been taken down nowPosted on Marzocchi's FB: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Marzocchi-Suspension-Official-Page/269687973096