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DW & ProflexUSA??

Discussion in 'Downhill & Freeride' started by cesar_rojo, Feb 29, 2008.

  1. cesar_rojo

    cesar_rojo Monkey

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    Newbie here... Just wondering if they are using the SW patent or this is a total violation of it?

    It looks so identical to me... They just moved bit the points, but don't know if they can do this or not...

    Sorry forgot the link
    http://www.proflexusa.com/icp.php

    Thanks,
    Cesar.
     

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  2. sanjuro

    sanjuro Tube Smuggler

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    I think you are going to have to produce some photographic proof.
     
  3. syadasti

    syadasti i heart mac

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    Google works...



    Resembles the 2002.5 with the first iteration of the DW-Link only it has a racer-X style top linkage:

     
  4. ?????

    ????? Turbo Monkey

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    Man I thought those guys quit making bikes about 10 years ago. I had no idea they were still around.

    Anyways, what's the difference in VPP and DW-link.
     
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    urbaindk The Real Dr. Science

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    I weigh 215 lbs. What durometer elastomer do I need for the rear shock? :)
     
  6. cesar_rojo

    cesar_rojo Monkey

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    Their back... But not sure there selling world wide...

    VPP and DW? Wheel shapes, anti squat curves, etc... but in the visual side basically on DW links rotate same way, VPP links counter rotate.

    But this to me looks like a DW link bike, so not sure if they share patent or what... and that was my question :D

     
  7. syadasti

    syadasti i heart mac

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    Well you do know that Pro-Flex/K2 was bought by Ironhorse's parent company - maybe that's how?
     
  8. Sandro

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    Since they mention DW Link by name i would assume that they have their bases covered.
    I hope the technology flows both ways, that way we might get to see Sam Hill rocking a Girvin Flexstem.
     
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    The real question is? Will they bring back the best Fork ever!!!!

    THE GIRVIN!!!!!!!:disgust1:

     
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    zahgurim Underwater monkey

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    I still have an old elastomir Vector 2 sitting around somewhere in my folk's basement... my first "suspension" fork.
     
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    As far as I know this has nothing to do with us. Even though the web site says Proflex USA it looks like they're only distributed in Europe.

    I always loved those forks back in the day!
     
  12. manhattanprjkt83

    manhattanprjkt83 Rusty Trombone

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    man the animal or the beast or whatever was one of the first freeride bikes...

    i loved that thing back in the day
     
  13. ire

    ire Turbo Monkey

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    Proflex? Man, haven't heard that name in a while. There are still some guys racing XC on the Girven fork around here
     
  14. xy9ine

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    I thought k2 bought Proflex. Did they sell the name back off?
     
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    ProflexUSA (in Europe) is different than Proflex/K2 in the US.
     
  17. syadasti

    syadasti i heart mac

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    :rofl:

    ScottUSA - Eurobrand (well it was for a long time anyways)

    ProflexUSA - Eurobrand
     
  18. jonKranked

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    looks pro-flexy
     
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    Hahaha, I remember REALLLLY wanting an Animal in 1998, which was basically the same thing. My memory of it is SO different though, much beafier tubes, slacker angles, lower seat, more like a modern DH bike basically.

    Honestly, if you'd asked me to draw what I though an Animal/Beast looked like I would have been a million miles off!
     
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    Actually, to be fair, the Animal is a lot nicer - riser bars, no bar ends, triple crown forks etc etc.

     
  21. Sandwich

    Sandwich Pig my fish!
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    Pro-flex's original methodology was that everybody should be on FS bikes...odd to see them making hardtails, especially if they're going to resurrect THAT name.

    I too expected to see linkage forks, a la Whyte bikes.
     
  22. ChrisRobin

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    That's crazy... and awesome! I used to have a proflex 854. Brings back memories. I remember trying a DH run at camp fortune in Ottawa when I had it.

    I sold it to a buddy for a $20 + a pint of guinness a few years ago.
     
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    your buddy got ripped off :D
     
  24. ChrisRobin

    ChrisRobin Turbo Monkey

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    Yeah I always felt a little guilty about that $20 but he insisted.
     
  25. manhattanprjkt83

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    dude the animal is what i wanted i remember now...esp after reading an article in Mountain Biking where there was a guy riding one at vietnam up in MI loved the photos back in the day...

    didnt shandro ride for them when the beast was out?
     
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    shandro rode for k2 for a bit, but was on rebadged m-1's, as the k2's sucked. case in point, the animal:

     
  27. MDJ

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    To think I raced that bike at the Mt. Snow DH. Just thinking about that scares tha crap out of me. Another guy about 10 riders ahead of me had one of those forks disintegrate right in front of my friends and they all thought it was me.

    I think I went through an elastomer stack on a daily basis with those. (edit: I didn't have the Beast but the non-beast version with elastomers).
     
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    K2 got a little sloppy in the aquisition if Pro Flex and these guys in europe got ahold of the name. That's why 'Pro Flex" is "back" In portugal and spain.
     
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    Awesome. One of my riding buddies way back had the beast. The thing I remember most was wanting his Magura hydro rim brakes (since no one had v-brakes yet). I also remember being sketched out by pulling on the front rim brake hard and causing the fork to bow outwards...
     
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    yes I had both raceline d's and tomacs and I had to use those brace things otherwise you would have no braking power. Maguras were sick brakes though in their day.
     
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    me too!

    Those things were great. Elastomir works great when it's cold out too!
     
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    This is not a licensed design, and not sold in the USA to my knowledge..
     
  34. Toshi

    Toshi Harbinger of Doom

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    i rocked a proflex back in the day.

    note the homebrew/retrofitted "microcellular elastomer" stack in the double exposure pic, put in place after i split one too many regular skateboard wheels, er, elastomers in half:



    other fun facts about the above photo: original Rock Shox Quadra (before the numbers), a sweet-ass 1" quill Syncros stem with the widest bar clamp known to mankind, and what looks to be a Vetta Lite seat.

    here it is in original garb, with the non-microcellular elastomers out back, a rigid fork (which i bent in half on a G-out, thus the Quadra), and the Girvin Flexstem with the green elastomer for extra jounce ;)



    by the time i traded that frame in for a Cannondale CAAD3 it had about 2" of lateral play at the bottom bracket...
     
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    Nice, is that a 93 model? I think i had a '94 754 with a Pro Forx in the front when i was 13. To further hinder my downhill career, my dad insisted i get a 20" frame, i raced that tank cross country and downhill for three years...
     
  36. Toshi

    Toshi Harbinger of Doom

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    it was a Proflex 550. not sure of what year that makes it. as i recall it, the choice came down to a 17" frame trek 8000 or the 16" proflex for $800 and $750, respectively, and my short self went with the smaller of the two.
     
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    Is this the best people can do to start a bike company. Take somebody's name and Dave's design. I would just think there would be better ways to start a bike company or any business :disgust1:
     
  38. Sandro

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    ...taking your size into account when buying a bike is always advisable ;) Fourteen years later and I'm riding a 17"
     
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    ...now that is messed up. They even mention the similarities to DW Link on their website. I don't know how some people sleep at night :plthumbsdown: