[me89]

okay e13 workers on this forum. i was wonderin if you could send me some pics of a linkage upgrade for an 03 ironhorse team dh frame. it would be gratly appreciated.

 

[Jonas]

me89-
Give me a little time and I'll see what I can find for you (and everybody else).
Thanks.

Jonas

 

[me89]

k thanks i appreciate it man

ohh and does it come with the same decals as the stock linkage cause that makes the bike. lol

 

[ssaddict]

It will look just like the '04 bikes linkage

 

[biggins]

can i get one of those for my sgs?it is the model with the cheap fox shock and 7 inches of travel. hey me89 do you work at epic?i live in blkmtn and come in there some. i am the guy that has been in there with the broken arm and cast up to my arm pit.

 

[biggins]

oh yeah and what is the benefit of the e-13 linkage.

 

[me89]

i wish i worked there. but i have seen you. i was at the decay the day you got out of the hospital so. i really dont know what it does but the e13 guy says it improves the performance even though hes got a biased opinion.

 

[Jonas]

Kyle-
Thanks for the Pics. I woulda had to take the camera home tonight and get some off my own bike - don't have any pics here at the office.
me89-
The rocker linkage looks the same as the '03, but there is an added crossbrace which significantly improves the torsional rigidity of the whole rear end. It comes with linkage bearings and a new set of main pivot bearings for the chainstay yoke. The new yoke on the chainstays is flat too - it doesn't dip down like the older version. The stays are beefier, too.
Biggins-
The linkage upgrade kit only fits 2003 SGS DH frames, not the feeride frames. You may have to be more specific about which one you have.

 

[ssaddict]

nother photo of gorges bike

See those two new bolts on the linkage behind the shock mount.

 

[John P.]

FYI, our linkage kit comes with bearings and the '04 chainstays as well. If I'm not mistaken, that pic that SSadict posted up shows the smaller, somewhat flexier '03 chainstays.

--John

 

[ssaddict]

Oops, damn.. I thought that was the whole '04 kit.

 

[syadasti]

Here is Brady/Taz's (03 front end, 04 rear end):

 

[me89]

thnks guys appreciate it

 

[schwaaa31]

Heres a pic fresh from the box. Just got it today, gonna start putting it together pronto.

 

[me89]

okay now it makes even more sense to me thanks guys for the pics you have really helped a newb out.

 

[dropmachine]

Will this kit make a difference in the SGS expert frame?

 

[ssaddict]

The expert has a 135mm QR rear end the DH bikes use a 165mm bolt on, I'm pretty sure the seat stays wouldn't line up with the chain stays correctly.

 

[me89]

i think it only works for the 03 dh models

not on the freeride models

 

[InsaneP2Rider]

i wish i worked there. but i have seen you. i was at the decay the day you got out of the hospital so. i really dont know what it does but the e13 guy says it improves the performance even though hes got a biased opinion.

yeah biggins, you might of seen him with me for a little bit at the Decay on that saterday. He wasn't there for long though

 

[schwaaa31]

Heres a pic of it installed. You can see the difference in the chainstays. The new ones are a straight shot. And yes i know my bike is filthy-its Killington mud, that crap doesnt come off easy. Plus I'm lazy.
P.S. it feels super stiff with the hand test. I'll give it a good thrashing this weekend and see how it is.

 

[kidwoo]

This is for the e13 guys: I've got a 7" travel norco that uses the same system of plates for the shock mount as the aftermarket kit shown above. Now with this system, you have to use really long reducer bushings/bolt shaft housing to bridge the rather large gap between the plates. On most specialized bikes, this swing link is a solid piece with machined aluminum coming closer to the shock eyelets (shorter bushings needed). Is there any reason you guys chose to use the plates as well other than the obvious cost reduction. To me it seems the solid hunk would be a much better system for creating a stiffer rear end, less potential for sideloading the shock etc.

Thanks

 

[say 10]

Heres a pic of it installed. You can see the difference in the chainstays. The new ones are a straight shot. And yes i know my bike is filthy-its Killington mud, that crap doesnt come off easy. Plus I'm lazy.

Nice work putting that thing together quickly....with all that rain at killington, you would of figured it would be clean.

 

[dw]

This is for the e13 guys: I've got a 7" travel norco that uses the same system of plates for the shock mount as the aftermarket kit shown above. Now with this system, you have to use really long reducer bushings/bolt shaft housing to bridge the rather large gap between the plates. On most specialized bikes, this swing link is a solid piece with machined aluminum coming closer to the shock eyelets (shorter bushings needed). Is there any reason you guys chose to use the plates as well other than the obvious cost reduction. To me it seems the solid hunk would be a much better system for creating a stiffer rear end, less potential for sideloading the shock etc.

Thanks

Actually, as far as the original 03 bikes went, e.thirteen really had nothing to do with the design of the rear end. We did the kinematic layout for the rear suspension, and also gave the factory some feedback on the layout of the system and minor structural elements.

The SGS frames use a full length steel bushing that pics up the linkage plates and the shock eye. This means that you have a solid 12.7mm diameter hi tensile steel shaft that is tough to bend.

The 04 upgrades were designed to act as bolt-on replacement for the 03 design. We tested all last year with the Mad Catz team using the prototype 3-piece design. The 3-piece design proved to have equal stiffness and far less cost than the 1 piece design, so we went with it. It also made assembly for the factory quite a bit easier.

Hope that answers all your questions!

Dave