I know this will sound nasty, but try it. Mix 92% beef, French's oinion soup mix, and 1 cup of Jack Daniels grilling sauce in together and grill to liking.
I tried it the first time and I ended up eating 4 burgers that night...
I think they make a stout at certain times, but not on a regular basis. They are from Vermont, so not a lot of people outside of New England have heard of them.
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