Different Echo, however since the subject has come up about Echo the trials company I will say this.. My last experience with them was somewhere around 2005 and them not returning emails about a warranty issue when the threads stripped themselves out on a dedicated Magura mount welded to the frame itself.
After that I gave it to a friend and will not do business with them again perhaps things have changed by now who knows.
i seem to recall reading on OTN that around that time there was a change of ownership with echo. or maybe it was zoo!. either way, the parent company is Deng (chinese frame warehouse type deal).
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