[dan-o]

Not a word.


Read your link again. The shopping center was looted, not his office which is obvious in the photos.

Apparently when they left one of them left a dollar on a desk.

They were in there for hours. They were hiding.

What I want is to quit wasting money on shit head frat boys who think they're untouchable. You know, the ones that commit crimes instead of preventing them...



Brandon Tatum, who is a former Tucson Police Officer and current host of The Brandon Tatum show on KTAR 92.3, has become one of the most prolific speakers and exciting personalities on social media after making a Facebook Video that got over 70 million views. Tatum has a tremendous following of over one million people spread across various social media platforms. He has been featured on Fox Business, Fox & Friends, Headline News, One America News,

https://theofficertatum.com/

The guy's a cop so you know he's used to lying

He is literally just making money off telling white people what they want to hear because it absolves them of responsibility and they'll pay him for it. Not the first, certainly not the last.

The new press secretary does the same thing with her blonde hair apparently. In case you haven't heard, there's kind of a market out there.

https://twitter.com/laurenduca/status/1250493679619497984

https://twitter.com/laurenduca/status/1250494800920444930

I know he’s conservative.
What stood out to me is that his dissatisfaction with past Dem performance mirrors the comments of Shawn White (liberal BLM activist quoted earlier) and Charlamagne tha God (don’t know his politics but doesn’t seem right wing) when he interviewed Biden.

So three guys, representing the extremes of the political spectrum, saying the same things. In this election year I find that interesting.

 

[dan-o]

Atlanta, as usual, just gnarly as fuck. Wendy's ablaze after another murder.

Atlanta police shooting death of Rayshard Brooks roils city

The shooting of 27-year-old Rayshard Brooks drew cries for justice from protesters and civil rights activists.

www.ajc.com

This where we are though. If low IQ brothers of the blue bullyhood can't get the message now of all times: "just don't fucking shoot black people right now" then this is what you get.

I used to live in atlanta when I went to georgia tech and I'll be honest, that was the only place in my life I ever had an entirely professional encounter with a cop. That singular event didn't override the 20 other ones I had with APD that were complete assholes but it did happen there......at 20 years old was the only time I thought wholly to myself 'wow that guy wasn't a raging dick'

But that's a story in itself. Every other coworker I met of his was.

These dumbfucks aren't learning a damn thing. They have at least 5 non-lethal ways to subdue someone, plus the ability to just not shoot at the vital organ part.....and they can't be trusted to do it. Not even now, in the face of an entire planet telling them to chill the fuck out.

*facepalm*
Allen said cops feel like they’re subject to a double standard in which a Taser, if used by police, is seen as a weapon, but a Taser used by a suspect against officers isn’t viewed as a threat.

These idiots still don't understand magnitude of threat vs response.

Here’s the cop body cam footage.
Professional stop until the deceased decided to take it in another direction.

I agree re unnecessary use of deadly force.

 

[Nick]

Unnecessary shooting. I wish they would have just run him down; drunk and asleep minutes earlier and I tend to think he wasn't going to break any 100yd dash records.

I heard a commentary earlier that said "of course he tried to run. they should have him go and got him later."

 

[Westy]

Unnecessary shooting. I wish they would have just run him down; drunk and asleep minutes earlier and I tend to think he wasn't going to break any 100yd dash records.

I heard a commentary earlier that said "of course he tried to run. they should have him go and got him later."

It looks like self defense if you play in reverse. He was clearly charging them by running backwards towards them.

Yeah, good chance they could ID him via the car registration and got a warrant. Fleeing does not justify lethal force.

 

[johnbryanpeters]

What will replace the Minneapolis police? The city's Native American community has some ideas.

Native organizing has a long history in Minneapolis.

www.motherjones.com

 

[kidwoo]

In other overreaction news: Can't remember which overpaid low IQ bullysquad it was but one of them charged a protester with assault with a deadly weapon when all they did was toss back a tear gas canister that was shot at him.

Again pigs: this is the problem. You're not learning.

 

[dan-o]

 

[jonKranked]

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of course he's targeting black bears.

 

[jonKranked]

Atlanta, as usual, just gnarly as fuck. Wendy's ablaze after another murder.

Atlanta police shooting death of Rayshard Brooks roils city

The shooting of 27-year-old Rayshard Brooks drew cries for justice from protesters and civil rights activists.

www.ajc.com

This where we are though. If low IQ brothers of the blue bullyhood can't get the message now of all times: "just don't fucking shoot black people right now" then this is what you get.

I used to live in atlanta when I went to georgia tech and I'll be honest, that was the only place in my life I ever had an entirely professional encounter with a cop. That singular event didn't override the 20 other ones I had with APD that were complete assholes but it did happen there......at 20 years old was the only time I thought wholly to myself 'wow that guy wasn't a raging dick'

But that's a story in itself. Every other coworker I met of his was.

These dumbfucks aren't learning a damn thing. They have at least 5 non-lethal ways to subdue someone, plus the ability to just not shoot at the vital organ part.....and they can't be trusted to do it. Not even now, in the face of an entire planet telling them to chill the fuck out.

*facepalm*
Allen said cops feel like they’re subject to a double standard in which a Taser, if used by police, is seen as a weapon, but a Taser used by a suspect against officers isn’t viewed as a threat.

These idiots still don't understand magnitude of threat vs response.

video footage going around seems to show a white woman setting the fire.

 

[dan-o]

of course he's targeting black bears.

With a choke hold no less.

 

[jonKranked]

With a choke hold no less.

they were in his picnic basket

 

[mykel]

they were in his picnic basket

Nah, that was just a boo-boo.

 

[kidwoo]

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Oh God, he looks hungry!

 

[kidwoo]

video footage going around seems to show a white woman setting the fire.

I think I know who. Red hair, pigtails? Blue tablecloth dress?

 

[AngryMetalsmith]

@dan-o is that the cop who refused to shoot the cubs after killing their mother that had been accustomed to humans ? Got suspended and sued the department, I think.

 

[AngryMetalsmith]

I think I know who. Red hair, pigtails? Blue tablecloth dress?

Daddy issues ?

 

[dan-o]

@dan-o is that the cop who refused to shoot the cubs after killing their mother that had been accustomed to humans ? Got suspended and sued the department, I think.

Don’t know, just saw the pic and thought of Westys bear posts.

 

[AngryMetalsmith]

Don’t know, just saw the pic and thought of Westys bear posts.

Gotcha. Wonder if that cop raised the two cubs or just ate them as soon as he got home.

 

[kidwoo]

I looked it up. Apparently mama bear got hit by a car with cubs in tow. Unfortunately happens a lot around here. Cubs being raised in wildlife care center.




Atlanta: I finally watched most of the 40min copcam, although admittedly in pieces. The cop was just fucking with him for like half an hour. The resolution to the situation had already been discussed, just let the guy walk to his sister's house. But no, that's not what cops do. Just had to keep flexing.

Everyone has known what the problem is for eons, there just hasn't been enough pressure to do it.

From 'Officer Friendly' to 'Officer Fear'

What happened to "Officer Friendly"? I find myself reflecting on this question as I continuously mourn the loss of life of young African American men in the inner cities of America

www.baltimoresun.com

This is why I get so annoyed with distractions like 'look what this black guy said that absolves us from future action'. There's nothing new coming out about cop brutality, especially against black people. The only thing new is now more white people are seeing it. Quit running from the problem or we're just going to be stuck in this endless loop forever. Or at least until a full blown race war breaks out. And that's not a better alternative. There's a difference between being open to discussion and being tired of bullshit. At this point it's like running around yelling that you can't PROVE there are no unicorns, stop trying to silence my dissenting opinion. Everyone knows this stuff already. Let's move on and make things better.

There are countless examples now of police being the ones that escalate situations, cause harm to the community, even to the point of death. It's kind of built into the system where cops think everyone is out to kill them, and they years of setting that tone makes people like me scared to see cops. Cities have been trying piecemeal reforms for decades. The most successful one that everyone is bringing up is Camden. They started over. Apparently it worked.

 

[Nick]

Atlanta: I finally watched most of the 40min copcam, although admittedly in pieces. The cop was just fucking with him for like half an hour. The resolution to the situation had already been discussed, just let the guy walk to his sister's house. But no, that's not what cops do. Just had to keep flexing.

Devil's advocate here, don't torch me dammit.

Why should they have let him off? He failed a breathalyzer and was in a running car. Cops woke him up (chance #1) he falls BACK asleep. I have zero doubt he would have got his bag of food and continued driving drunk.

He should not have been shot. Hard stop. I said before they should have chased him down.
But he was cold busted at that point, then he fought the cops, he took the tazer, he ran, he fired it at the cops. He did everything wrong. That is a fact.

I bet the cop is charged with murder. I'm not on that cops side.

 

[kidwoo]

Who said they had to do anything other than issue a citation and just make sure he didn't get in the car a drive away with that astronomically high BAC of just barely over the legal limit? He was tired from driving all day as much or more than 'drunk and passing out'. Listen to the conversation, the dude is not blind wasted.

This is the problem we face in america. We're so used to the idea that cops are forced to act the way they do, we blame the person getting their ass beat when the threat to society they posed is either 1)not really a threat 2)easily diffused in another manner.

What would have happened if Eric Garner sold single cigarettes?
What would have happened if George Floyd passed off a fake 20?
What would have happened if wannabe cop George Zimmerman just minded his own damn business?
What would have happened if someone (maybe even a cop) just knocked on his window and said 'hey, you really don't need to be driving right now?"


Ask yourself this: What's the end goal here, punishment or community safety. I think it's pretty clear that the dude wasn't plowing through playgrounds drunk. And once the cops showed up they could have easily escorted him to his sisters house, or do what they do with most non-threatening clean white people: make you call a taxi, take the keys and make you come get the car later. I can go on. But what they did was escalate. He posed no threat to them, they patted him down so they knew he wasn't a threat....why not just prevent him from driving drunk. There are multiple ways to achieve that goal.

Remember, community safety over punishment. That's what they tell us that police are there for. Prioritze punishment and this is what you get. Prioritize safety and you get.....wait for it......actual community protection.

 

[Nick]

I do think the goal should be community safety. Park the car, give cops the keys, come get them at the station tomorrow.
Since they had a failed breathalyzer, perhaps they were obliged to make an arrest? I don't know what ATL law says on the matter.

He was drunk enough to fall asleep in a drive thru once, and then again AFTER the shock of cops waking you up.
You say he was no threat to them, until he decided to fight with two cops. What would you think if he managed to grab a pistol instead of the taser before running?

What if he just got arrested? Make bed/lie in it. Is that an unacceptable outcome to this?


edit/ps: remember I grew up with a crooked-ass police dept and I've seen all manner of wrong done to people, including my friends, by the cops. I know there is a big big big problem.

 

[Westy]

Devil's advocate here, don't torch me dammit.

Why should they have let him off? He failed a breathalyzer and was in a running car. Cops woke him up (chance #1) he falls BACK asleep. I have zero doubt he would have got his bag of food and continued driving drunk.

He should not have been shot. Hard stop. I said before they should have chased him down.
But he was cold busted at that point, then he fought the cops, he took the tazer, he ran, he fired it at the cops. He did everything wrong. That is a fact.

I bet the cop is charged with murder. I'm not on that cops side.

There is a difference between letting him off and letting him run away. He was no longer going to be driven his car so the immediate threat to society was removed. If he ran away let the situation de-escalate and get an arrest warrant.

 

[Nick]

There is a difference between letting him off and letting him run away. He was no longer going to be driven his car so the immediate threat to society was removed. If he ran away let the situation de-escalate and get an arrest warrant.

I'd have rather seen that too. I mentioned above I don't know what ATL law dictates the cops do at that point.

 

[Westy]

I do think the goal should be community safety. Park the car, give cops the keys, come get them at the station tomorrow.
Since they had a failed breathalyzer, perhaps they were obliged to make an arrest? I don't know what ATL law says on the matter.

He was drunk enough to fall asleep in a drive thru once, and then again AFTER the shock of cops waking you up.
You say he was no threat to them, until he decided to fight with two cops. What would you think if he managed to grab a pistol instead of the taser before running?

What if he just got arrested? Make bed/lie in it. Is that an unacceptable outcome to this?


edit/ps: remember I grew up with a crooked-ass police dept and I've seen all manner of wrong done to people, including my friends, by the cops. I know there is a big big big problem.

What if he could shoot lasers out of his eyes?

 

[kidwoo]

He didn't 'decide to fight' two cops. They grabbed him and tried to handcuff him after he was nothing but polite.

If I was black, in the south, and a cop tried to handcuff me after I'd been completely civil with them for 40 minutes......I'd be scared for my life, just like he was. There's kind of a history there if you hadn't heard.

His BAC was 0.10. I guarenfuckingtee you you've driven home from a parking lot at a trailhead with a higher BAC after two beers on an empty stomach. I know I have. Have you read about why he was in Atlanta yet? The guy had been driving for hours and hours on little sleep. I'll say it again: he was not blind passing out drunk. He was at least just equal parts exhausted.

But being black, in the south, and genuinely scared they're going to kill you..... Have you ever been genuinely scared for your life? The response is usually self preservation. And all he did was try and use a cop toy that cops use all the time without a second thought on the people they're supposed to be serving.


This is why people are protesting all over the place right now. This isn't about YOUR or MY experience as white people in america. People are you telling us that THEIR experience is very different. Don't ignore the message, and especially don't discount the proof when it's made available to see with your own eyes.

 

[Westy]

I'd have rather seen that too. I mentioned above I don't know what ATL law dictates the cops do at that point.

Guessing it doesn't require indescriminant gunfire. Was hard to tell from the video but that parking lot started out crowded. Firing a gun because there was a possible threat from the good own non lethal arsenal could have been putting the larger population at harm.

 

[Nick]

What if he could shoot lasers out of his eyes?

you want to discuss, then discuss. if not, that's fine by me.

He didn't 'decide to fight' two cops. They grabbed him and tried to handcuff him after he was nothing but polite.

He was polite, but he was drunk.
I don't know, I was taught to never fight with police. If you're busted, you are busted. I can never walk a yard in any black person's shoes.

Guessing it doesn't require indescriminant gunfire.

Of course not. I meant even they had the flexibility to secure the car and let him walk.

 

[kidwoo]

He was polite, but he was drunk.
I don't know, I was taught to never fight with police. If you're busted, you are busted. I can never walk a yard in any black person's shoes.

And I was taught that officers were friendly. My life experiences taught me a very different story. I was also taught santa claus was real but I don't cling to that in my 40s either.


This the very heart of the conversation though. What we were taught about why police are there isn't really ringing out to be true.

Personally I'd like to see young cops taught to not automatically fight the community that pays them for service.

 

[Westy]

you want to discuss, then discuss. if not, that's fine by me.


He was polite, but he was drunk.
I don't know, I was taught to never fight with police. If you're busted, you are busted. I can never walk a yard in any black person's shoes.


Of course not. I meant even they had the flexibility to secure the car and let him walk.

I know two people that have been in similar situations. A dude I knew in college crashed his car while drunk, he ran when the cops showed up. They never bothered to pursue him. He was arrested the following day on charges of fleeing the scene of an accident and received similar punishment to a DWI.

A coworker fought the cop while he was being arrested, a random passer by actually had to stop and help the cop. He never even pulled out his weapon.

Neither were in Atlanta but both were white.

 

[Nick]

{lightbulb}

I was taught that because I knew the cops in town would fuck. you. up. I watched it first hand more than once. I witnessed a rigged lineup for a thief, I saw cops beat the ever living shit out of guys from the racetrack caught selling drugs to us young kids. I knew nothing of Officer Friendly.

also its' worth repeating ...

Devil's advocate here

 

[jstuhlman]

haven't watched the video, so not sure the whole context...why didn't they simply cuff him and take him in after the breathalyzer? i've been busted twice for "criminal" speeding and both times been cuffed and taken in. i was not really a public safety threat in either case. they just wanted the $$$ from fines, etc. same thing happened once in the middle of nowhere massachusetts when i got pulled for an expired plate (form Maine) and they fucking impounded my car and stranded me and my gf. so why, with something arguably a bigger danger, did they not just cuff him on the spot? or is that when he ran?

 

[kidwoo]

{lightbulb}

I was taught that because I knew the cops in town would fuck. you. up. I watched it first hand more than once. I witnessed a rigged lineup for a thief, I saw cops beat the ever living shit out of guys from the racetrack caught selling drugs to us young kids. I knew nothing of Officer Friendly.

also its' worth repeating ...

I avoid cops at all costs, and have run from them more than once for the same reason. The only time I've ever called one was just because I was scared of beating up a minor. So I called them and they happily did it instead.

Things need to change. Because the longer we tell ourselves whatever it is we tell ourselves to blame the victim and shrug it off, people literally die at the hands of police. I'm not cool with being complicit in that just because it doesn't affect me directly, and I can point to how a shooting victim could have handled it better.

The biggest crime in that parking lot was a shooting, not someone falling asleep with a barely over legal BAC.

The devil doesn't need an advocate. They have police fraternal organizations that keep satan in circulation just fine.

 

[Westy]

Last week the CEO of my company made a statement that the company needs to recognize and address that there is a systematic problem. Much stronger words than the typical corporate milquetoast. So today we had an executive led two hour social justice discussion. It started off with some normal tone deaf presentation and videos, then a few black coworkers spoke up and shared some very specific experiences.

One dude a young women say they get 'pulled over' while jogging a couple times a year. The gentlemen says he has been cuffed and stuffed several times doing this while his ID was ran. Both admitted they are afraid to leave the house unless they properly dressed and groomed.

Another coworker admitted to moving back to the predominantly black neighborhood he grew up in to avoid such harassment but now it is getting gentrified and his new white neighbors call the cops on him.

Another coworker said when he tried to buy a house in the area it fell through because it took over two months for his mortgage to get processed. He makes good money, good credit and was pre-approved, just kept running into random and unknown processing errors.

Few things summed up the level of frustration than the one guy who said in a fairly sarcastic manner "this shit has been happening to me my whole life, there have been videos of it on the internet for decades, thanks for finally noticing"

None of this was surprising, but it certainly hit home hearing it from people I work with.

 

[kidwoo]

haven't watched the video, so not sure the whole context...why didn't they simply cuff him and take him in after the breathalyzer? i've been busted twice for "criminal" speeding and both times been cuffed and taken in. i was not really a public safety threat in either case. they just wanted the $$$ from fines, etc. same thing happened once in the middle of nowhere massachusetts when i got pulled for an expired plate (form Maine) and they fucking impounded my car and stranded me and my gf. so why, with something arguably a bigger danger, did they not just cuff him on the spot? or is that when he ran?

 

[Westy]

you want to discuss, then discuss. if not, that's fine by me.

I just don't see the point in hypotheticals when discussing a specific event.

 

[stevew]

i'm happy the bank tellers know i tend to nod off at the drive thru.....

 

[jonKranked]

 

[dan-o]

Good thing the cops weren’t present to needlessly escalate the situation.

Wild shootout in Northeast DC captured on home surveillance video

Home surveillance video obtained by FOX 5 captures the chaotic scene during a shootout Friday evening in Northeast D.C.

www.fox5dc.com

 

[mykel]

Good thing the cops weren’t present to needlessly escalate the situation.

Wild shootout in Northeast DC captured on home surveillance video

Home surveillance video obtained by FOX 5 captures the chaotic scene during a shootout Friday evening in Northeast D.C.

www.fox5dc.com

FFS.
Are you really that thick?
At one time I thought you had something to say.
Now I see you are nothing but a fucking troll.