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Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
56,400
22,481
Sleazattle
so apparently my county website has a way i can look up the status of my ballot. received but not yet counted.
Washington State has a nice tracking system. My ballot was received and verified within two days. Some friends had theirs rejected for changes in their signature, they were able to have resolved.
 

mandown

Poopdeck Repost
Jun 1, 2004
22,237
9,527
Transylvania 90210
...thinking about the trash talk and branding issue.

So trump is both a scumbag and a republican. Trashing him for being a scumbag can get conflated with trashing him for being a republican. The people doing the trash talk probably have both an anti scumbag and anti republican agenda, so the issue separation isn’t clear.

The problem with this is that it opens the door for the republicans to respond in kind, using a transitive policy/scumbag approach. When a trump supporter hears someone call trump a scumbag, then they fire back with “I know you are but what am I?” This idea that the democrat calling trump a scumbag is also a scumbag will get conflated with democratic policy.

I really think that trump is such a scumbag that the policy shouldn’t even enter into the discussion. A candidate should be able to get over the scumbag bar to even be in the running.
 

JohnE

filthy rascist
May 13, 2005
13,562
2,208
Front Range, dude...
Has the Trumpapottamous been going undercover at voting sites in order to ferret out corruption? How did he find out??? All of our carefully laid plans...gone to waste...

"All of the recent Biden claimed States will be legally challenged by us for Voter Fraud and State Election Fraud. Plenty of proof - just check out the Media. WE WILL WIN! America First!"
 

jonKranked

Detective Dookie
Nov 10, 2005
89,396
27,620
media blackout
Has the Trumpapottamous been going undercover at voting sites in order to ferret out corruption? How did he find out??? All of our carefully laid plans...gone to waste...

"All of the recent Biden claimed States will be legally challenged by us for Voter Fraud and State Election Fraud. Plenty of proof - just check out the Media. WE WILL WIN! America First!"
:does cocaine furiously:
 

mandown

Poopdeck Repost
Jun 1, 2004
22,237
9,527
Transylvania 90210
One of my musical collaborators did this project based on a suggestion from me. He’s done data driven electronic composition before (such as COVID case data) so I thought this would be an interesting idea.

Here’s the explanation of how it works.

Here is a YT playlist with updates based on voting counts.
It relies on stereo panning (left and right, get it?), so have a stereo playback source.
 

Full Trucker

Frikkin newb!!!
Feb 26, 2003
11,196
8,920
Exit, CO
...thinking about the trash talk and branding issue.
I think @jonKranked and I have both opined on this, or something pretty similar.

So trump is both a scumbag and a republican. Trashing him for being a scumbag can get conflated with trashing him for being a republican. The people doing the trash talk probably have both an anti scumbag and anti republican agenda, so the issue separation isn’t clear.
To be honest, it's not that easy right now to not conflate being a scumbag and being a Republican, or at least the type of Republican that they've been becoming for the last 20-30 years. And with Trump at their helm, it seems many of the actual Republican politicians (and their constituency) have really let their scumbag flag fly high and proud, or at the very least via silence/complicity.

The problem with this is that it opens the door for the republicans to respond in kind, using a transitive policy/scumbag approach. When a trump supporter hears someone call trump a scumbag, then they fire back with “I know you are but what am I?” This idea that the democrat calling trump a scumbag is also a scumbag will get conflated with democratic policy.
As @stoney has said, they all think we're atheist baby-killing gun-takers. So you know... we're scum.

I really think that trump is such a scumbag that the policy shouldn’t even enter into the discussion. A candidate should be able to get over the scumbag bar to even be in the running.
Oh man, if only there was some way of enforcing this.

Some previous discourse on the subject...
Edit to add: the problem I am grappling with is that right now I pretty much mentally equate "support of Trump" to "this person is a fucking racist/bigot/misogynist/etc." or at least complicit in those things. Because how the FUCK could a person morally green-light support of a person who is clearly all of those things? What political issue is SO FUCKING IMPORTANT TO YOU that you'll turn a blind eye to a bunch of morally fucking wrong shit?
@jonKranked followup to the above:
as i stated in pawn, this is probably the most disappointing aspect of all this.
 

Full Trucker

Frikkin newb!!!
Feb 26, 2003
11,196
8,920
Exit, CO
Uhhh... JKs post indicated the gap was 113k and now it's ~108k per the link you just sent... so Trump is still losing ground. Trump has been leading in PA for a while, but losing ground steadily. I think this is more of that?

"We received 2,426 additional votes from Pennsylvania. Trump is currently up by 108,592 votes."

No we can't. Shitgibbon
Hopefully a Waning Shitgibbon.
 

Pesqueeb

bicycle in airplane hangar
Feb 2, 2007
42,364
19,892
Riding past the morgue.
He's trying to make counting a partisan issue.
An almost verbatim text I sent to @jonKranked earlier:

Tell you what concerns me, saw a Trump supporter driving down 8th street clearly not taking it well. Hand written crazy shit all over his truck. Without the Trump context a fella would have just assumed they were seeing someone have a schizophrenic break. The only ones I caught for sure were "stop the count trump won" and "biden sniffs kids". There was also III% sticker and a Q sticker. Lots of other writings but that was all I could make out as he went by. I suspect this guy is an outlier only so much as he's the first one I've seen.
apparently georgia has more uncounted ballots than previously reported:

"Surprise!" - no one.

Maybe I’m only seeing it this way because of my bubble, but I’ve noticed that any time someone comments on how voting choices shouldn’t impact friendships, it is always a trump/republican voter saying it aimed at democratic/liberal people. I don’t seem to see that comment going the opposite direction, from left to right. It’s become some sort of underhanded jab, where the right will take some fake moral higher-ground position.
Yeah. At first I thought I should be bigger than to let my politics interfere with friendships, but I’m finding that harder to do.

One way I’m seeing it now is that I have a large group of close friends in the LGBT community. If I have a friend who votes trump, that’s functionally a threat to the way of life of my LGBT friends.

I can excuse folks who vote republican for fiscal and military issues, or foreign policy reasons. I can tolerate the idea that they are anti abortion because of their beliefs. But the voting for Trump, particularly when they do it like cheering for a sports team, and trash talking the “opposition” is too much.
Because of where I live, a lot of my neighbors and friends tend to lean conservative, or have past military careers. Many a "spirited" debate has taken place either at my dining room table or in my kitchen regarding politics. All these people remain friends. That is solely because of the fact, that no matter how much we disagree on many, many, subjects, they are still loved and cherished in this house. I appreciate an opposing view, and no matter if they are wrong, and they are, ;)they have proven over time to be good and true people who look beyond our difference and equally value us as people and friends too.

No Trump supporter will ever step foot in my house. No more than anyone wearing a swastika armband or wearing a klan hood would cross my threshold. The differences I have with the people mentioned above are, as P.J. O'Rourke said about Hillary WAY back in 2016, and I paraphrase, "are within the realm of correctable error.". But Trumpism? That is a bridge too far. Don't feel bad about cutting those people from your life. Feel good about it. Ask yourself, how welcome is Nazi wheel chair guy in your house? Apply the same rule to anyone willing to admit to being a trump supporter. There is no difference.

None.
 
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Full Trucker

Frikkin newb!!!
Feb 26, 2003
11,196
8,920
Exit, CO
An almost verbatim text I sent to @jonKranked earlier:

Tell you what concerns me, saw a Trump supporter driving down 8th street clearly not taking it well. Hand written crazy shit all over his truck. Without the Trump context a fella would have just assumed they were seeing someone have a schizophrenic break. The only ones I caught for sure were "stop the count trump won" and "biden sniffs kids". There was also III% sticker and a Q sticker. Lots of other writings but that was all I could make out as he went by. I suspect this guy is an outlier only so much as he's the first one I've seen.

"Surprise!" - no one.



Because of where I live, a lot of my neighbors and friends tend to lean conservative, or have past military careers. Many a "spirited" debate has taken place either at my dining room table or in my kitchen regarding politics. All these people remain friends. That is solely because of the fact, that no matter how much we disagree on many, many, subjects, they are still loved and cherished in this house. I appreciate an opposing view, and no matter if they are wrong, and they are, :-)wink:) they have proven over time to be good and true people who look beyond our difference and equally value us as people and friends too.

No Trump supporter will ever step foot in my house. No more than anyone wearing a swastika armband or wearing a klan hood would cross my threshold. The differences I have with the people mentioned above are, as P.J. O'Rourke said about Hillary WAY back in 2016, and I paraphrase, "are within the realm of correctable error.". But Trumpism? That is a bridge too far. Don't feel bad about cutting those people from your life. Feel good about it. Ask yourself, how welcome is Nazi wheel chair guy in your house? Apply the same rule to anyone willing to admit to being a trump supporter. There is no difference.

None.
But how do you really feel?