http://mobile.sfist.com/2012/04/05/cyclist_who_struck_pedestrian_at_ca.php
The guy kills a pedestrian and he complains about his helmet.
Embarassment to all riders
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Let me guess, fixie with no brakes ?
Fixie rider? Die.
I think SF should ban cycling. Clearly the populace is not up to the task. Walking and waiting in line possibly too....
No matter what, I agree with the comment..."Ever been a dick much?" Hope he wears his spandex to jail.
Refer to my earlier post on how cyclists have to follow the goddamn fvcking law!! 
Ugh. It is *exactly* was gives all of us cyclists a bad name...
There is a rider up our way that rips around the surrounding towns with No helmet and no regard for traffic laws. Add to that the local roadie rides that come through and think they are the TDF Peloton and simply throw their used gel wrappers and banana peels to the side of the road.
But a car driver plowing through a bunch of pedestrians? He's old/mechanical failure/had a bad morning/was texting/putting on makeup/yelling at the kids in the back seat/distracted by a herpes flareup/is drunk/etc...
Idiotic actions like that reflect badly on any subset of road users, whether it's the octogenarian who confused the gas and the brake, or the teenager who wasn't paying attention... And like it or not, cyclists are viewed by Americans as a subset of road users. If you don't think that instances like that aren't going to make it harder for the rest of us who *do* follow the law and ride responsibly, you're delusional.
No, they don't. How many old people got their licences yanked after the Santa Monica Farmer's Market incident? Don't even get me started on the social acceptability of driving drunk or recklessly...
And, to be honest, I really don't care. I'm not a dick who rode down an old lady in a crosswalk because I was speeding and couldn't stop. When I venture out onto the road, what drivers think of me is of no concern. I'd rather have them frothing mad that I'm on the road, because most people aren't homicidal maniacs, but are instead completely clueless and not paying attention. If you're mad at me, you at least realize I exist. Besides, like you pointed out, we're not really "road users" anyways, so does it even matter?
Seriously? Maybe if you 'ventured out on the road' a bit more, or were married to someone who commutes by bike 25 miles per day you'd care about what drivers thought of cyclists being out on the road...
Does it matter if the person that hits you feels charitable toward cyclists or not?
A person who's "charitable towards cyclists" is usually far less likely to honk, swerve towards, throw things at or try to inform the person (at 20mph) of their legal inability to ride on city streets.
Or attend city council meetings to protest the addition of bike lanes.
Or work with politicians to try to have bike lanes removed.
Or demand that all cyclists become registered with a license plate.
Or...
Or attend city council meetings to protest the addition of bike lanes.
Or work with politicians to try to have bike lanes removed.
Or demand that all cyclists become registered with a license plate.
Or...
I'll take a honk or a comment about how I look like a fag (always a pickup truck driver, for some reason...) over being run down by a well intentioned texter who didn't even see me.
I'm sure you know from hanging around mountain bikers that the only people who don't hate bikes on roads in North America and the people who are road cyclists gives you a Venn diagram that is going to be pretty damn close to a circle.
That's the one thing I love about the hipsters and their fixies. More bikes on the road is a good thing. And it has nothing to do with how drivers feel about it.
I'm sure you know from hanging around mountain bikers that the only people who don't hate bikes on roads in North America and the people who are road cyclists gives you a Venn diagram that is going to be pretty damn close to a circle.
That's the one thing I love about the hipsters and their fixies. More bikes on the road is a good thing. And it has nothing to do with how drivers feel about it.
If you're at all serious by that comment, I'd suggest visiting more bike-friendly urban areas before making a blanket statement like that...
Bad communication on my part, sorry. I didn't mean road cyclists as spandex-clad people on racing machines, but rather people who ride their bikes on the road regularly. This would include a whole bunch of people I don't consider cyclists, myself. Again, not a well communicated thought on my part.
If you're at all serious by that comment, I'd suggest visiting more bike-friendly urban areas before making a blanket statement like that...
I've run into a very disturbing number of mountain bikers who seethe whenever their commute to the trail is delayed by 1/10th of a second by someone on a bike on the street. Hell, on my local mountain biking message board, the last time someone got run over in the canyon (dead) there were posts about how she shouldn't have been on the street anyways.
Apparently there is surveillance video from a nearby business indicating that the dude was full of crap when he said the intersection was full of people.
The intersection here is at the bottom of a steep hill. Most lights in SF have those timers ticking down so you know when the light is going to change. My guess - just a guess - is that the bike rider pinned it through the intersection just as the light changed, and that the ped stepped into the road when the light told him to walk, without actually looking to see if a bike (or a bus, car, truck, etc.) was coming at him. \
That is not to blame the pedestrian. Everyone who rides in SF knows that peds don't look before crossing. Blowing a light at a busy intersection is sketchy as hell is this town, that is just reality (and of course I am guilty of it too). Doing so at high speed at the particular intersection is incredibly stupid. If my guess is accurate, I say throw the book at him, same way you would if it were a car.
Silver, I see your point. Of course, getting honked at is better than getting hit. But wouldn't being able to ride your ride without the hassles of intentional close calls and getting yelled at be better?
The intersection here is at the bottom of a steep hill. Most lights in SF have those timers ticking down so you know when the light is going to change. My guess - just a guess - is that the bike rider pinned it through the intersection just as the light changed, and that the ped stepped into the road when the light told him to walk, without actually looking to see if a bike (or a bus, car, truck, etc.) was coming at him. \
That is not to blame the pedestrian. Everyone who rides in SF knows that peds don't look before crossing. Blowing a light at a busy intersection is sketchy as hell is this town, that is just reality (and of course I am guilty of it too). Doing so at high speed at the particular intersection is incredibly stupid. If my guess is accurate, I say throw the book at him, same way you would if it were a car.
Silver, I see your point. Of course, getting honked at is better than getting hit. But wouldn't being able to ride your ride without the hassles of intentional close calls and getting yelled at be better?
Sure, but Holland is already pretty crowded
I did a ride around the city tonight, and while I was careful about what lights and stop signs I rolled (and most I didn't not), I still had the same attitude and behavior around cars because I want to live.
If you're ever in the area of Madison WI, let me know and I'll give you a bike tour of the city. Not Holland (by a long shot), but easily one of the most bike-friendly places I've seen here in the US.Sure, but Holland is already pretty crowded
There's a big difference between a gel wrapper and a banana peel.
The latest development:
S.F. bicyclist in fatal crash may face felony
S.F. bicyclist in fatal crash may face felony
Good. He should, as long as they start holding cagers to that as well.
^^^Agree 100%.
Honestly, I wonder whether 16 months is enough for what is basically vehicular manslaughter due to gross negligence. He killed a guy.
Leafing through past news reports on "vehicular manslaughter" it looks like the operate word here is "could result" in 16 months in prison. For most of them it seems like as long as you weren't drunk or your 3rd/4th/5th offense it's often a suspended prison sentence although I did find one that was a 24 month sentence for running a red light and killing another driver.
They are both litter! Just because one is biodegradeable doesn't mean its ok to just throw it on the street.
Not sure if this was posted anywhere else in here, but I didn't see it:
http://www.sfexaminer.com/local/crime/2012/06/witness-blames-pace-biker-charged-felony-manslaughter#ixzz1xz5zpalW
Looks like the guys is up for a felony.
http://www.sfexaminer.com/local/crime/2012/06/witness-blames-pace-biker-charged-felony-manslaughter#ixzz1xz5zpalW
Looks like the guys is up for a felony.
As it should be. If we want to be respected on the road by other users then we need to respect the rules of the road not ignore them
I am going to add a link of the descent, http://youtu.be/GJztLihlZ7E?t=2m6s
It is so steep, you can't see the Castro Theatre sign when you are at the stop sign at the top of the block.
It is so steep, you can't see the Castro Theatre sign when you are at the stop sign at the top of the block.
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Jeebus. If Mr. Bucchere was really doing 35+mph on that street: guilty.
Will be interesting to see all of the info released at the trial. Supposedly there's video showing he entered the intersection on a yellow, which would give him a legal right to be there (and would place the onus on the pedestrian to *not* step out until the traffic had cleared). He'd still have the speeding charge, but I'd be surprised if he were found guilty of "gross negligence" just for going 35 in a 25 and having a pedestrian step out in front of him.
Run a red light as a bus driver and kill someone - Misdemeanor
Run a red light as *another* bus driver and kill someone - Misdemeanor
No clue what the final sentencing was for either of them...
Run a red light as *another* bus driver and kill someone - Misdemeanor
No clue what the final sentencing was for either of them...
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