Everyone is a GM Employee!
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wow, that is pretty agressive. I wonder if FORD will match? I have not heard anything.
so with how much money so save you can pay for a week of gas for you new land yacht.
Might be the right time to buy an H3...
I wonder if that deal is better than IMBA's Subaru deal. Does the GM employee discount beat the dealer invoice price? IMBA's deal lets you buy any Subaru at dealer invoice.
Too bad Toy won't offer the same deals... I could never buy a GM/Ford/Dodge anything.
Toyota doesn't have to offer this kind of deal; they actually make quality products that sell based on their own merits, not incentive programsN8 said:
I'd like to use aN8 said:
smiley here, but my wife really likes the Ford Explorer, much to my chagrin. So when it comes time to get another vehicle, we'll probably get another Explorer. 
They should call it the "Stop the Hemorrhaging Sale 2005".
They're really hurting to sell some cars.
deathtrap.I Are Baboon said:I'd like to use a
seriously.
i drive to new york twice a month or to VT in the winter and every single time I'm delayed an hour because of a rolled Explorer, Navigator, or Expedition. I'm surprised they're even allowed to sell them given the rollover rate...
In fairness I have once been delayed by a rolled 4-Runner as well.
My wife has the same deal through the American Speech-Lanugage Hearing Association (she's a speech therapist) - you get "invoice" pricing, but that's not what the dealer paid for the car, wholesale on the car (or at least the '05 Impreza wagon I looked at) is about $500-$1000 less than the "invoice" price.I Are Baboon said:
It's the 1.9 million former employee's they are paying retirement to (they only currently employ a bit over a 100k people) that's sucking them dry.Jayridesacove said:
Well you can't fault the vehicle entirely for bad drivers. My wife is very careful behind the wheel and I don't think she would ever roll her Explorer.Barbaton said:
Wow thats so cool the discount their junk 
,so here again some one effs you and does not even kiss you 
neaky: neaky: 
they should give their cars away for demolition derbys ..
,so here again some one effs you and does not even kiss you neaky: neaky: they should give their cars away for demolition derbys ..
I Are Baboon said:
Yes it beats it. Just like an "EP" program in the biking industry, as employees of a given manufacturer (or their franchised dealerships) our purchases are subsidized by the factory.
SIMPLIFIED Example
I am going to buy a Ford Escape. The Escape costs (all inclusive)the dealer $20,000. Well the "plan" price for me to buy that vehicle is $19000. So I pay 19000, the dealership originally looses $1,000, but then Ford turns around and pays the dealership ~ $1100 making selling the vehicle to me (as an employee) NOT a loss.
The IMBA program is not subsidized (to my knowledge), it is a flat pricing plan where the dealership still makes a very small margin.
Toyota does have factory incentives to both customers and directly to dealers, but other then that your post was spot on :eviltongubinary visions said:Toyota doesn't have to offer this kind of deal; they actually make quality products that sell based on their own merits, not incentive programs
It's still a better deal than most people get, and there is no haggling involved (unless you have a trade-in). It's nice to walk into the dealer knowing exactly what you're going to pay.Andyman_1970 said:
New for GM is the "we'll do what ever we can to sell you one of our POS cars..............please buy one of our cars".
What sucks is the fact that everyone who bought a GM last month just lost a few grand in book value. They just made the product worth less than it already was.
GM , Ford and chrysler need to take a step back a really evaluate where they want the compabny to go. If they want market share back then they need to build a higher quality product. GM is ready to issue a recall on crown vics, they have bad insulation that can catch fire.
What sucks is the fact that everyone who bought a GM last month just lost a few grand in book value. They just made the product worth less than it already was.
GM , Ford and chrysler need to take a step back a really evaluate where they want the compabny to go. If they want market share back then they need to build a higher quality product. GM is ready to issue a recall on crown vics, they have bad insulation that can catch fire.
I understand. It's just that that particular vehicle is particularly intolerant to bad drivers, and those bad drivers won't admint they're bad drivers and buy one anyway. I'd much rather be behind a bad driver in a wide-wheelbase, low CG car than an Explorer.I Are Baboon said:
Did ya read the article? GM has been getting increasing higher quality ratings, yet as you just proved, they are still not perceived that way.Lexx D said:
Oh ya and GM doesn't make the Crown Vic
New toyota incentives for june range from a $300-1250 rebate(depending on vehicle) or the option of .9-3.9% apr(again depending on vehicle). We have never had the $5000 off that the domestic companies have. If I drive down the road to the chevy dealer they have a tahoe with a huge sign that says "$10,000 off" That means the guy that bought it last month just lost almost $10,000.Mtb_Rob_FL said:
I've noticed that their prices have dropped a lot of the last few months. I was looking at a Silverado that was $20,900, and it was loaded pretty nice. Also, the new Colorado is a nice looking truck...
The only problem, my current Chevy truck is only 2 years old, and has had its share of problems...
The only problem, my current Chevy truck is only 2 years old, and has had its share of problems...
Lexx D said:
This coming from someone who thinks Crown Vic's are made by GM!
They have higher "initial quality" ratings. Give those cars a couple years on the road. That means within the first 3 or so months of ownership the customer was happy and had few problems. That does not tell us anything about overall reliability.Mtb_Rob_FL said:
Lexx D said:
Just a FYI... you know you cant win this argument because I know 1325443541252134 x's more about the auto industry then you do right?
You have already spouted a ton of errors in this thread
However you are correct in saying that Toyota, or other foreign manufacturers (except maybe Mitsu) do not offer as large of rebates as the Big 3, but they do offer rebate incentives, both to the customer and the dealer (which you are not seeing).
That 10,000 off is off of the MSRP, so your analogy of the guy from last month doesnt apply unless he paid MSRP (which not very many people do).
Bottom line, the Employee subsidized purchases are often not much less then what a savvy customer can do on their own, so the GM program is not much more then an advertising campaign. ie... "We will treat you like one of our own" type of deal.
Reminds me of that old saying, "How can you tell when someone who works at a car dealership is lying? Their lips are moving!"
Knowledge of cars and knowledge of how the automotive industry work are 2 totally different things.Lexx D said:
N8 said:Reminds me of that old saying, "How can you tell when someone who works at a car dealership is lying? Their lips are moving!"
Mine arent moving, thats why they stick me in the back with these computer thingies and the #'s.
HA! Yeah, and general contractors are always up front and honest with their customers.N8 said:Reminds me of that old saying, "How can you tell when someone who works at a car dealership is lying? Their lips are moving!"
"It'll be ready in one month!":nuts:
Baby boomer retirement syndrom, I expect to see this happen with other domestic companies soon. Just another reason to ship jobs overseas.Andyman_1970 said:
Lexx D said:
Oops I missed this. I was out to lunch, but yes I am. I am a controller for (sorry for the SPAM) www.Holmanauto.com . Prior to this I was an internal auditor. I also previously owned my own small used car dealership, and had a few years of experience with Enterprise Rent-A-Car in operations, audit and the corporate office. There were also a few years for an automotive finance company, I am sure there is more, but Id have to refer to my resume.
Month hell.... it'll be ready in 2-weeks!!!I Are Baboon said:HA! Yeah, and general contractors are always up front and honest with their customers.
:nuts:
N8 said:Month hell.... it'll be ready in 2-weeks!!!
No, that would be the bike industry - see Iron Horse, Titus, Santa Cruz, etc.