I'm guessing more of a gel coat...?Is this frame painted black?
I'm guessing more of a gel coat...?Is this frame painted black?
I don't think those are wear plates on the inside of the dropouts, it seems to be something to protect the frame from the rotor, heat is the only thing I can think of. I can't think of a case where there would be physical contact there.Personally I really dig the stainless steel wear plates he added to the chainstay and on the insides of the dropouts.
The fender is part of the swingarmGoddamn, this thing is beautiful.
How is the fender mounted? There's some room between the fender and the swingarm, so I don't think it is made in one piece.
I liked version with visible CF better.I'm guessing more of a gel coat...?
Are you sure? The edge between swingarm is too sharp for one piece mold, imo. And why isn't it connected with the seatstay?The fender is part of the swingarm
Still a prototype ?What I want to say is: Why are there four parts when there should only be one?
Agreed. It looks so good it makes me forget about the revolt issues.every pic i see of this bike makes me want one more...it's incredible.
perhaps there to keep a bent rotor from sawing the frame.I don't think those are wear plates on the inside of the dropouts
im holding back from saying 'i told you so' in this thread.Agreed. It looks so good it makes me forget about the revolt issues.
Well the frame can still selfdestruct for no reason. Revolt also looked good on paper I'm waiting for some real life reviews. Preferably after a full season.im holding back from saying 'i told you so' in this thread.
agreed.Well the frame can still selfdestruct for no reason. Revolt also looked good on paper I'm waiting for some real life reviews. Preferably after a full season.
That's what I thought. Thanks. I think the swingarm would be too difficult to make it in one piece. Even if it's carbon there are some limits in forming limits like there are limits for casted pieces.The fender is bolted to that part that connects both sides of the swingarm.... At least that's was I saw yesterday.... Also the fender fits pretty well in there, so I think that's the reason of the illusion of it being part of the swingarm
every pic i see of this bike makes me want one more...it's incredible.
I wanted to buy a Wilson for the season 2013. But I see there is a new contender in town. Hopefully we'll get some real life reviews this season.Well the frame can still selfdestruct for no reason. Revolt also looked good on paper I'm waiting for some real life reviews. Preferably after a full season.
That would mean, there is very little space between rotor and swingarm... :|perhaps there to keep a bent rotor from sawing the frame.
great looking frame.
Why is that a problem. Do you predict massivly bending your rotor?That would mean, there is very little space between rotor and swingarm... :|
yeah seriously, just pedaling through a taco'd rotor to the finish line...screaming slayer lyrics and dropping c-bombs on all the spectators...Why is that a problem. Do you predict massivly bending your rotor?
Yeah maybe that's it. Getting a little excessive there in terms of the whole protecting itself thing, but I suppose on the rare occasion it happened you'd be thankful.perhaps there to keep a bent rotor from sawing the frame.
Road bikes have the same thing near the BB erea for wen and if chain possibly falls off.Yeah maybe that's it. Getting a little excessive there in terms of the whole protecting itself thing, but I suppose on the rare occasion it happened you'd be thankful.
Actually, those are indeed wear plates! Kevin and I spoke about this, and the one thing that seems to happen when riders remove the rear wheel for service is that occasionally the rotor will scrape the inside of the chainstay and seatstay. To prevent this from happening, Kev added the stainless wear plates - or more accurately - armor plates. =)I don't think those are wear plates on the inside of the dropouts, it seems to be something to protect the frame from the rotor, heat is the only thing I can think of. I can't think of a case where there would be physical contact there.
Indeed, I don't. If the rotor is bent so badly, it could touch the frame, it wouldn't go through the caliper, IMO. Unless, the rear triangle is unusually narrow.Why is that a problem. Do you predict massivly bending your rotor?
Indeed, I don't. If the rotor is bent so badly, it could touch the frame, it wouldn't go through the caliper, IMO. Unless, the rear triangle is unusually narrow.
Since it's already been let out of the bag, officially the finishes will be:
Satin Black
Carbon Fiber with clear coat (think TLD D3 Carbon Pinstripe helmets)
Glowstick/Flouro Yellow
Heat radiating from rotor? Can you imagine the amount of energy required to influence the carbon on that chainstay when carbon has been well used for braking rotors, and aramid for projectile impact dissipation? Steel rotors we use can bake themself immediately when compared to carbon.I don't think those are wear plates on the inside of the dropouts, it seems to be something to protect the frame from the rotor, heat is the only thing I can think of. I can't think of a case where there would be physical contact there.
HAHA...
Yeah fair enough! I see them being of more use when the rotor bends like suggested further up, but either way it's cool they've covered all the points of frame wear. I really hope the rest of the frame and linkages are strong / durable / reliable enough that people can ride the bikes long enough to benefit from the extra touches.Actually, those are indeed wear plates! Kevin and I spoke about this, and the one thing that seems to happen when riders remove the rear wheel for service is that occasionally the rotor will scrape the inside of the chainstay and seatstay. To prevent this from happening, Kev added the stainless wear plates - or more accurately - armor plates. =)
You're comparing a carbon braking rotor to a carbon bicycle frame? I'd suspect these are very different applications, and the layup and laminate/bonding agents are very different in high-heat applications.Heat radiating from rotor? Can you imagine the amount of energy required to influence the carbon on that chainstay when carbon has been well used for braking rotors, and aramid for projectile impact dissipation? Steel rotors we use can bake themself immediately when compared to carbon.
Yeah, because its so much cheaper to make a brand new frame than to make a few more of the same ALU onesIs it true the drive behind the carbon frame was mainly to lower weight and thus get a saving on the cost of air-freighting warranty frames?
hahaha!! right?My V10c makes me shiver, but that sukker right there makes ma pee pee go da doing doing doing.
Unfortunately not. The links are still at the mercy of internet speculation and couch surfing 1st semester engineering experts who will predict their failure based on grainy photos. Someone will imagine it might break and someone else with poor ability will blame it for bucking them when they grab a fist full of front brake in a panic.Sorry guys, TL;DR the whole thread, but have they resolved the issues with the linkage? Forces are really high in this design and I witnessed the link bolts shear on a bottom out, but I think DW said they went to double shear. Has there been any issues with the new linkage?
IIRC the undead is a slightly modified version of the linkage... lower shock mount is no longer on the swingarm, its on the main triangle now.Sorry guys, TL;DR the whole thread, but have they resolved the issues with the linkage? Forces are really high in this design and I witnessed the link bolts shear on a bottom out, but I think DW said they went to double shear. Has there been any issues with the new linkage?
Got to admit, it's a beautiful bike aesthetically...