Evil Undead
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- 2 months = 2 years 2 weeks =2 months baiters gonna bait buck me in the s buck the trend buck you! butthurt activate! consumerism could careless e-speculation! evil = blame the asians evil is evil evilhate=itsthenewblack expensive hobbies haters wanna hate hype machine rolling ih8rice wants new evil? its on the way new evil=no evil proto=2 yrs;production=?? suckers new evil≠old evil thetruth is dope trumpdoucheinvasion waiters gonna wait where is bradflyn
Just the honest, no BS answers from Evil about past problems, and current customers with pending Revolt warranty cases will be issued Undead frames as warranties for their Revolts, makes me want this frame badly!
It hink the only way to present Evil as a serious company in the future was to tell the truth. They had some bad problems (like frames 20mm out of alignment 
) Now it seems they are on a good way with a new and competent supplier.
Nice, I always liked Evil bikes.
) Now it seems they are on a good way with a new and competent supplier.Nice, I always liked Evil bikes.
That's a big article considering it's a single prototype being discussed.
Single prototype? It's almost production-ready frame being discussed and other frames are mentioned 2 times as well. It's quite a big news, IMO.
I'm very glad they've managed to solve all business issues, also that Filip Polc will ride one of these beasts.
I'm very glad they've managed to solve all business issues, also that Filip Polc will ride one of these beasts.
If all goes good, they will be replacing Revolt frames in summer 2011. That sounds like they're on some good point. Hopefully.
Agreed, and good on them for speaking up and openly about the issues. Also seems like they really want to make it right for their current customers waiting on warranty frames.
Also, from the comments (from Evil):
the wait continues
nice to see they finally changed the DELTA linkage and its connecting parts
nice to see they finally changed the DELTA linkage and its connecting parts
you're not waiting anymore though...
cats out of the bag!
here is the article.
http://www.pinkbike.com/news/Exclusive-Evil-Undead-First-Look-2011.html
go back one page guy
Nope, Kevis states this is the first frame from the "second version" of the company, not the frame. He says this is sort of a new beginning for them.
there is some awesome features on that bike that really need to be adopted by other frame manufacturers...
heres to hoping this bike is a success.
not to mention, good god she is gorgeous....
heres to hoping this bike is a success.
The big question remains.......... Will this be this years "Best bike ever?"!!!
*only* if i can convince my mom to pay shipping
Nice. Really nice. So another carbon DH frame coming to market. Will this open the floodgates for everyone to jump onboard? My guess is the big S is next up. Or Trek.
Something about this frame allowed me to get a picture of a carbon M9 in my mind - now that would be interesting on several fronts.
Something about this frame allowed me to get a picture of a carbon M9 in my mind - now that would be interesting on several fronts.
Of all the new bikes out there, asthetically, this one impresses me the most! That thing is bad ass looking, and I don't care for the looks of the orriginal Revolt (perfect color combo as well).
That being said, it is funny that people think that with a very frank press release that Evil has suddenly come 180*. I'm not bashing them or hoping otherwise but what would you expect..."Well, we've had tons of problems and have been unable to deliver and it's possible that the same manufacturing issues may arrise with our carbon sources..."
Hopefully that is not the case because this frame certainly goes on my short list of wants.
That being said, it is funny that people think that with a very frank press release that Evil has suddenly come 180*. I'm not bashing them or hoping otherwise but what would you expect..."Well, we've had tons of problems and have been unable to deliver and it's possible that the same manufacturing issues may arrise with our carbon sources..."
Hopefully that is not the case because this frame certainly goes on my short list of wants.
I'll be honest, that's by far the best looking DH bike I've ever seen....in my opinion anyway....hope they make a comeback....
besides it being carbon (and some hardware tweaks,) it looks almost identical to the last one
looks great. hopefully they can avoid manufacturing issues this time around. you place allot of faith in the design, manufacturing & qc abilities of the contractor - esp when building a carbon bikes where structurally compromising flaws may be externally invisible. time will tell.
It's good to see that this bike is finally out in the wild, can't wait to see/ride production bikes.
As happy as I am that I never had a frame problem with my Revolt it sure would be nice to get an Undead as a replacement.
As happy as I am that I never had a frame problem with my Revolt it sure would be nice to get an Undead as a replacement.
It looks like they have tweaked the shock actuation too... it's not floating any longer. Can't really see from the pic but sounds like the bottom shock mount is on the front triangle and not the rear triangle.
Looks nice though. I'm kind of sad that my Revolt doesn't have an issue with it!
aesthetically, its pretty similar though. getting rid of the floating shock is a good idea IMO since alignment issues wont be as big of a concern.
how does having a non-floating shock affect the behavior of the delta-link? I thought that the whole system was kinda dependent on that to achieve what DW wanted to...
beats the sh!t outa me. i only stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
i wonder if Mr. DW had any hand in redesigning the setup.
Either that or it was just mad marketing bull****.
Glad for Evil customers that they aren`t going to get the shaft.
Genuine congrats to the Evil guys - perseverance champions of the world (like your customers!).
Well done for sticking it out and I'm sure things will go better from here.
Well done for sticking it out and I'm sure things will go better from here.
yeah, i thought the old one looked really really good...the lines on the new one look rad...the fork bumpers, the downtube protection, new headtube all look good...the area that houses the shock looks super clean...time will tell how the bike works out, but i'm digging the aesthetics for sure....
I like the devinci for It's floater... This looks nice but I wouldn't be first in line...and I hope intense doesn't jump on the bandwagon...their us production allows faster lead times and a more flexible process.for changes.
cats out of the bag!
here is the article.
http://www.pinkbike.com/news/Exclusive-Evil-Undead-First-Look-2011.html
is this even a DW patented delta-link anymore? i wonder if by changing the floating shock, they no longer have to pay DW royalties.
Looks quite a bit different to me, more organic. I like it, damn hot. Very cool to see another full carbon DH bike too!
Hodaka? Is this a really well known/successful carbon manufacturer?
Hodaka? Is this a really well known/successful carbon manufacturer?
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It's still a Delta link and it's still DW's design, the floater didn't do anything magic except that it gave DW the effective spring curve (leverage curve if you prefer) through the travel thathe was looking for. I understand that they were able to come up with a design that did the same thing without floating which improves the unsprung mass.
that was exactly my first thought, out of off the carbon dh bikes, or aluminum ones for that matter, this looks like it literally grew out of the ground, super fluid looking.
the adjustability looks phenomenal
the features such as the fender, removable tabs, bumpers, ect = awesome
looks = awesome
price = competitive
weight = should be fantastic
durability and reliability ???????? who knows right now
i love it from this one article but only time will tell. I guess the guys sitting waiting for their revolt warranty replacements will be able to inform us first.
I am however more excited with the announcement that this is the first of multiple carbon FS frames planned. Im hoping for a Dh oriented 6" frame
Kinda a weird question, but anyone wanna say who the factory/company that Evil used the first time around? From the sound of a poster on PB it is Fastrax, but it seems like they are the company who make the new one, as Fastrax is really Hodaka. Ya, working on a paper...This would add some interesting flavor...