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- 2 months = 2 years 2 weeks =2 months baiters gonna bait buck me in the s buck the trend buck you! butthurt activate! consumerism could careless e-speculation! evil = blame the asians evil is evil evilhate=itsthenewblack expensive hobbies haters wanna hate hype machine rolling ih8rice wants new evil? its on the way new evil=no evil proto=2 yrs;production=?? suckers new evil≠old evil thetruth is dope trumpdoucheinvasion waiters gonna wait where is bradflyn
Prepare for the biggest hype beast rig on the internet.
Wow... someone REALLY likes carbon fiber... LoL.
OK - just to clear up any confusion:
Pricing: $3,350.00 USD / 2,999.99 Euro
*Note: For warranty frame recipients who were previously riding a Revolt, and are transferring their shock to their Undead, increase the spring rate for the Undead by 50#.
OK - just to clear up any confusion:
Pricing: $3,350.00 USD / 2,999.99 Euro
*Note: For warranty frame recipients who were previously riding a Revolt, and are transferring their shock to their Undead, increase the spring rate for the Undead by 50#.
Ha i wish it was mine, just seen the pic pop up on-line, thought the forum would appreciate it. Mine showed up last week and is sitting in the box down in my basement. I will be selling mine as I have since moved from the mountains and have no reason for a carbon DH bike. Not to mention i have none of the parts needed for such a build anymore either, it was 2 years ago
I beat you
I did that on purpose
is that calendar in the background to mark how long youve been waiting?
Why do you still troll in this thread?
Glad people are stoked on getting their warranty bikes. Hopefully the Internet can move forward as Evil is trying to do.
Cheers
keep gulping the hateraide
+1
seriously it's so old at this point...been hearing that crying since this thread started...
He is not called angry Steve for nothing
Just looking at the one with the Enve wheels above my wallet started to run away. Worst thing about it is that bike would not make me one bit faster if I had a chance to ride it.
i just like to keep it fresh in everyone's mind how long people have been waiting for
hooray for marketing!
let us know how many rides it takes for yours to break.again
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Anyone got or getting a large? Interested in the actual WB number of one built up.
Rode the medium undead and it felt a bit small under me, but I'm hoping the large isn't as big as the dw-dhr in large (a little too long given they have four sizes IMO, hoping evil used a tighter spread).
Rode the medium undead and it felt a bit small under me, but I'm hoping the large isn't as big as the dw-dhr in large (a little too long given they have four sizes IMO, hoping evil used a tighter spread).
Is it just me or does the carbon work around the shock-pocket look really sloppy? I'm excited that people are getting their rigs, but it just seems out of place for a 3.4k DH bike to have carbon "flash" and such. The pic on the other page really shows it.
I guess if it's just visual, then fine, but it just seems so out of place on a mega-hype-get everything right this time-megabike.
I guess if it's just visual, then fine, but it just seems so out of place on a mega-hype-get everything right this time-megabike.
ran into someone at Whistler thats been riding his everyday (proto) for the last few months and its still going strong with no issues.
Isnt it time you simply moved along. Im sure no one here really gives a **** about your opinions as they are as played as a sear point hookers pussy.
the funniest (saddest) part is that the one person all pissy about it isn't even an evil owner. everyone else seems pretty stoked to be getting new frames, and even if it did take way longer than one would hope, they are being taken care of.
im sure a company test rider would have told you if one had broken
im glad i dont have my Evil anymore. all three of the ones i had were utter garbage (but rode great. go figure.) and they should be happy. its been 2 years. but hey, they are "doing the right thing..." i mean the legal thing
the only redeeming quality that company had went to GT
I remember you being far more positive when you had one on sale.
well hey, they also could've thrown in the towel, declared bankruptcy, and left the frame owners with nothing...but they didn't, so yeah I think they deserve a bit of credit for seeing it through and making good on something that would've definitely forced a lot of other companies to shut down.
marketing!
Wasn't your relation with marketing on par with being imprisoned 20 years and then let out only to be manipulated in having sex with your own daughter?
Udi! I had the same issue with my Medium Revolt as I used to ride a Med. IH Sunday.
The cockpit on my medium Revolt felt too small for me personally. I'm between 5'10 and 5'11 depending on what liquor store I'm fleeing, and have an arm span of approx 76.5" from middle finger tip to finger tip (I come from a long line of North Eastern European Orangutans).
I took some rough measurements and a medium Revolt / Undead (identical Geo) falls between a Small and Med. Sunday. The front end felt too short and gave me the uneasy feeling like I was going to go over the bars while railing a berm. I ride with a slight weight-forward bias as one would when piloting a Sunday.
I measured my new large Undead and it is about an inch longer than a medium Sunday.
*Note: (all measurements are approximations)
I plan on setting up my Undead with a 48mm stem and a saddle that is slightly forward of center on the post as a starting point, and then I'll adjust from there.
Sammich - which pic are you referring to? When you say "flashing" are you referring to left-over bits of material at the mold seam or the appearance of the CF? The CF on the Undead can have a super cool "curl" or "flame" to it much like the book-matched maple top of a Gibson Les Paul or PRS guitar... sometimes a mother-of-pearl effect. Although this is what it may looks like, as what I can tell from mine she's as smooth as Kate Beckinsale's thighs...
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Actually dude was pretty quick to tell me he had no affiliation with Evil any longer. YEs, he could be lying as im sure you'll see it that way, and yes, it could have broken 50 times and it was a new one.im sure a company test rider would have told you if one had broken
Or, you can stop being a consumate douche about the bike and move along, is it not enough that Evil honored warranties and began shipping bikes free of cost to people? Your **** is literally so tiring to read, its mostly just stupid banter about how much you hate Evil, we get it.
Cheers for the reply, but an inch longer where, in WB? Assuming it has the same fork set at same length if that's the case. Any pics of the new rig built up? Side on.
again +1 - Obviously the bikes are looking great and people are psyched. Get over it.
Thanks Udi! I'll have her posted up when she's finally done. =) Whoops - it's about an inch longer in the TT area.Cheers for the reply, but an inch longer where, in WB? Assuming it has the same fork set at same length if that's the case. Any pics of the new rig built up? Side on.
RainG - Here is a brief bit of info from the pending new website:
Reach:
Small: 363mm
Medium: 383mm
Large: 403mm
XL: 418mm
Stack:
600mm ALL frame sizes (Undead)
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This one. it looks like it's already chipped up. It's not "flash" as referred to by the small seam, it just looks weird. The previous photo was this one: http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/194989_1691133283447_777538762_o.jpg where you can see the overlay is not quite smooth on the back of the seattube.
Like I said, still glad to see these going out to warranty people. Like, super glad.
that is black bondo used to fill in voids where the mold wasn't filled and sanded smooth.
there's 3 states:
1. voids between the mold cavity and fiber that are filled by resin during the curing process.
2. voids between the mold cavity and fiber that are not filled by resin, and are filled with bondo during finishing.
3. perfectly filled frame with no voids
Obviously, the latter is what is the holy grail. It is hard to get there, especially if you have a lot of sharp corners and areas where you don't have compaction from internal pressure, and whole host of different reasons. The reality is that it doesn't end up making a lot of difference until you are wringing out the last 10% of weight savings possible.
I don't like the look of yellow resin pools, but the bondoing of the corner edges doesn't bother me, not that anyone asked. Leaving it naked is cool, it does invite criticism though
there's 3 states:
1. voids between the mold cavity and fiber that are filled by resin during the curing process.
2. voids between the mold cavity and fiber that are not filled by resin, and are filled with bondo during finishing.
3. perfectly filled frame with no voids
Obviously, the latter is what is the holy grail. It is hard to get there, especially if you have a lot of sharp corners and areas where you don't have compaction from internal pressure, and whole host of different reasons. The reality is that it doesn't end up making a lot of difference until you are wringing out the last 10% of weight savings possible.
I don't like the look of yellow resin pools, but the bondoing of the corner edges doesn't bother me, not that anyone asked. Leaving it naked is cool, it does invite criticism though
Yes, were applauding a company for doing what should be done in a climate where most dont. Extra points? no. But thankfully Kevin is a stand-up dude and doing whats right. He could have very easily and saved himself alot of walking money doing something else.
Also, being friendly with KEvin is irrelevant. I bought a bike and had a warranty and like everyone else waited. So, my friendship doesnt mean **** because he did the same thing for me as he did for other warranties.
What no one really cares about is anything you post here, seriously. not a soul gives a ****.
Mine is sitting at 39lbs in the pic.
Fox RC4, Canfield Tough Run Rims, Conti Rain Kings, 11-28 Ultegra Cassette, Thomson Elite Seatpost, Funn saddle, Candy DM Stem and Bar, ODI Grips and Hayes Prime Experts and Marz 888 Evo V2, E-13 LG-1, E-13 36t Chainring and E-13 DH cranks.
Im going to swap between Vivid Air and the RC4. Ive never made any effort to save weight but I'd like to see it at 38/39lbs total. I ordered a Zee Shadow Derailleur and Shifter.
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you seem to care which makes me laugh. im glad you are still supporting a company wholeheartedly whos finally doing "the right thing." and i still find it funny that a few of you that have been waiting this long have had the patience to wait two years while a company completely redesigns a failed bike
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Thanks. I seem to recall Trek playing with the term "OCLV", optimum compaction low void. Never new what it meant, but your post helps.
i forgot #4: taking it out of the curing mold, and over-wrapping all of the crap with a weave for the finish step. The ultimate in carbon douchebaggery. The technology that brings you carbon hoods for your neighborhood honda civic.
so sick. i'm not douche-free, my countertop is made from it i got from the local surf shop. 2k twill is like crack for motorheads.
acronyms don't actually mean anything but they are important branding vehicles, even when the marketing department talked to some engineers about what might be considered important. No knocking Trek, but what OCLV was 20 years ago "might" be different than today. Acronym remains unchanged, Trek and OCLV brand is strengthened by not making too many things out of "OCLV" that aren't POS. (thats pieces of sh*t for you grammarians). I don't think that Spec's FACT ever got real traction because it sounded like it was trying too hard to be a word and totally fictionalized the process.
OCLV doesn't roll off the tongue, and it has some real connotations with the words which is, imo, why it had staying power.
Anyway, back to page 83...