I think most of the frames with warranty issues were misaligned and caused the pivots on the delta linkage to bind. When I put my Revolt together you had to tighten each bolt a little at a time, like doing head bolts on a motor. I got mine pretty early before things went really bad but I think some could have been pretty bent.
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Thanks again for the help.
Can someone please pass along the contact info for Evil or Kevin? It has been sometime since I was in contact with them.
Cheers,
hosemonkey
Can someone please pass along the contact info for Evil or Kevin? It has been sometime since I was in contact with them.
Cheers,
hosemonkey
What he said makes sense - if you think about it, friction adds resistance, so it is essentially increasing the force required to compress a certain distance - contributing to the spring rate in a way.
Take away that resistance and the suspension moves more freely, so you need a higher spring rate (or more damping) to maintain the same level of firmness as what you were happy with previously. It's hard to correlate friction directly to either spring or damping rates but that theory holds roughly true.
I did say "or more damping".
Friction would be similar to super low speed damping (like a bad SPV/CVT implementation) where it's a strong force that breaks away quickly. In that case it is still affecting sag because it takes a certain force to overcome the friction. There's a racetech article here that discusses it, hard to replicate on a bike due to minimal sag under own weight, but they seem to agree.
In any case this is semantical discussion about the old Revolt, I was just noting Kevin did in fact have it the right way around.
Friction would be similar to super low speed damping (like a bad SPV/CVT implementation) where it's a strong force that breaks away quickly. In that case it is still affecting sag because it takes a certain force to overcome the friction. There's a racetech article here that discusses it, hard to replicate on a bike due to minimal sag under own weight, but they seem to agree.
In any case this is semantical discussion about the old Revolt, I was just noting Kevin did in fact have it the right way around.
Yes I saw that, I was hoping you might have more to say on spring weight, as I thought you'd agree spring weight would be the less accurate or ideal way to counteract the problem. As unless the "friction" was limiting travel even with less damping for compensation, then a lighter spring would be of no benefit, but would change ride height and whole spring rate. So you think if the friction might change at different shaft speeds and/or parts of the stroke, a lower spring rate might actually be a beneficial and more predictable way of compensating for the friction?
What do you mean by "semantical discussion"? My points are about damping and spring weights being two different things.
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The "friction" was on the Revolt.
I was just pointing out that Kevin's suggestion was in the right direction.
By "semantical discussion about the Revolt" I mean that this topic is insignificant to the bike this thread is about and thus not of huge interest to me. The question has already been answered, and I'm not disagreeing with you.
I was just pointing out that Kevin's suggestion was in the right direction.
By "semantical discussion about the Revolt" I mean that this topic is insignificant to the bike this thread is about and thus not of huge interest to me. The question has already been answered, and I'm not disagreeing with you.
Back on topic, sorry for the derail.
LG1 rims? Are you running the hubs too? Doesn't appear to, I figured the huge flanges would be clearly visible from a distance. Haven't actually seen any pictures of a bike with the wheelset installed.
I thought those were the Enve carbon rims, which would have been way sexier.
haha I have to disagree! Based solely upon looks the e13 gets my vote. I've always though the Enve logo is kind of cheesy and cheap looking. They don't appear to do much to their products in the way of cosmetics. Kind of a shame really, there products are top notch in terms of performance they should have the looks to match! Even their website appears lowly haha The new The Hive stuff is way more dialed from a aesthetics stand point IMO. Performance on my cranks, guide, and pedals have been awesome so if the wheels are on par with those, they surely wouldnt disappoint!I thought those were the Enve carbon rims, which would have been way sexier.
I have the wheelsets. All I can say right now is they look awesome.
But the freehub is LOUD.
But the freehub is LOUD.
Loud is subjective I've found in terms of freehub noise. My Outlaws(24poe) were loud but sounded like ****. My friends Pro 2 Evo(24poe as well) is loud but sounds good, almost like you can hear the quality of the freehub haha. I don't mind loud as long as it sounds "good". I just got some Hadley's(72poe) and they are positively quiet compared to the Outlaw and Pro2. Again I don't mind, as it sounds "good" and "high quality" if you will haha. If you do the little mini-review after you get some ride time on the Tues, you should take a vid of the hub sound as well
Also curious to know how the perform in terms of general durability and bearing life etc. From the numbers I've seen, those hubs are super light
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Yes, I'm running the hubs too. The photo kind of hides them. This will be my second set of the LG1+, and I have a set of TRS on my trailbike. I love them, incredibly stiff, durable, light, etc... The hub is pretty loud, it's pretty much all you can hear on the trail. The photo is a bit dark but there are E.thirteen pedals as well.
If you can hear your hub - pedal! PEDAL PEDAL PEDAL!!!!!
Nice rides, BTW.
Nice rides, BTW.
Agreed! On the nice rides bit, the pedaling part, well i don't really like to pedal hahaIf you can hear your hub - pedal! PEDAL PEDAL PEDAL!!!!!
Nice rides, BTW.
priceseliger - see youre diggin the e13/hive stuff too huh? I have a guide, lg1 cranks, and lg1 pedals. Been loving my cranks, the mounting interface makes installation and removal so easy that I find myself cleaning the bottom bracket and spindle more often than ever before haha and the pedals, my god I can't say enough good things about them. Had a little more drag than I cared for, went ahead and tore them down and cleaned the axles and relubed them and now they are perfect. No complaints. What pin config are you using? I was running 4mm with the 7mm pins on leading and trailing edges. MASSSIVE grip. Just mix n matched all 3 pin sizes, first ride with the new config coming tomorrow.
Hey Guys!
Now, i have my frame here and start the build up of my Undead!
I have a question about the right spring rate:
I want to order a Ti-Spring and i`m unsure, which Spring-Rate should i choose. My weight inclusive protectors is 163 lb (74Kg). Can anybody help me out?
Cheers
Now, i have my frame here and start the build up of my Undead!
I have a question about the right spring rate:
I want to order a Ti-Spring and i`m unsure, which Spring-Rate should i choose. My weight inclusive protectors is 163 lb (74Kg). Can anybody help me out?
Cheers
Loud Hubs Save Lives!
I have a set of 29er TRS+ wheels ready to go on my Trail bike, just got the 142x12 axle conversion on Friday so I can't wait to get them on the bike (need cone wrenches
). I've heard the wheels, especially from 29er guys, are incredibly stiff, hopefully I'll get to ride them this weekend.anyone using 450 coil spring? Im 180lbs rider with gear, it´s too much? im using now neddle bearings on the top shock mount and 400 is becomes too soft, I like the improvement of the neddle bearings on top shock mount, all delta link bearings will last longer because of the lees friction, and you have delta link works more freely, improving small bump absorption, if you noticed the upper part of the linkage moves a lot, i did some videos of the system working and its incredible (sorry engrish hhahaha)
Question: didnt want to go thru the 106 pages, whats the price on the frame and where can I get one?
Good chance a local shop may be able to get one in also......
i rode all of them and trust me undead feels more fast and fun, and controlled too, i like, but i dont know the way you ride, its your own choice
here is my small Undead
I have one question:
does anyone had problems with the spherical bearings in the Delta Link?
Thanks a lot for your help
does anyone had problems with the spherical bearings in the Delta Link?
Thanks a lot for your help
None with mine.
Thanks guys, I appreciate it!
that was the answer i was looking for
that was the answer i was looking for
