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Evilbikes/E-13 rules the ground!!!

Espen

Monkey
Nov 25, 2001
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I must say I am impressed about how many inovative, sweet products this man comes up with.

- Take a look at all chainguides these days, they all looks like the evilguide.
- How about the Imperial?, never ridden one, but don't they all sells out pretty quick whan a new batch arrives?
- Low stack 1.5 HS, pretty good idea!
- Thin chainrings, made for chainguides, good stuff!
- Two new beautiful steel HT, looks just perfect!
- Designer of WC level DH racers, several podiums all over the world
- And now, a new gearbox!?




This is damn cool, plain and simple!!!!!!!



Espen
 

UiUiUiUi

Turbo Monkey
Feb 2, 2003
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Berlin, Germany
no they suck, they stopped making evil guides all is e13 now...


just kidding

still i want my black evil bashguard!!!! *stompswithfoot* :D
 

CBJ

year old fart
Mar 19, 2002
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Transcend said:
Wait till you see the new MRP...aluminum bashguard encased in lexan..wtf?
That sounds like somebody trying to do something different to keep up with competition. I can not understand why they have not responede before - I guess somebody was sleeping during the strategic management lectures.

Luc whats up with you and :Thumb: :thumb: you keep screwing it up. Do you need a little post course maybe in exhange with spelling help :D
 

oly

skin cooker for the hive
Dec 6, 2001
5,118
6
Witness relocation housing
I also just want a black guard. Im sorry but the poo brown thats stuck behind my guide just bugs me, but the guide works so well it doesnt matter (i know i can get one, and i tried.....the one i got was the wrong one and then they were back ordered). My #1 goal next year is to have a black guard!...
 

Transcend

My Nuts Are Flat
Apr 18, 2002
18,040
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So order one? They are $34.95 in the online e.13 store.

BTW don't place an order until after interbike, or heiki will have to ship it and probably screw it up. (his words, not mine!) :D
 

Acadian

Born Again Newbie
Sep 5, 2001
714
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Blah Blah and Blah
CBJ said:
Luc whats up with you and :Thumb: :thumb: you keep screwing it up. Do you need a little post course maybe in exhange with spelling help :D
what do you expect from a guy that is posting in a HURRY from meetings and that is functioning on 3-4 hours of sleep a night for the past 2 weeks!! :( :dead:
 

binary visions

The voice of reason
Jun 13, 2002
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Acadian said:
what do you expect from a guy that is posting in a HURRY from meetings and that is functioning on 3-4 hours of sleep a night for the past 2 weeks!! :( :dead:
You're in good company.. I've been in meetings all day, every day this week and all next week too. Functioning on what little sleep I can get in between being sick and taking care of daily business.
 

oly

skin cooker for the hive
Dec 6, 2001
5,118
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Witness relocation housing
Transcend said:
So order one? They are $34.95 in the online e.13 store.

BTW don't place an order until after interbike, or heiki will have to ship it and probably screw it up. (his words, not mine!) :D
Like i said... i tried. Only had one chance to order and it was backorderd then messed up (wrong pattern). it wasnt the end of the world so i diverted my $$ elsewhere.
 

MikeD

Leader and Demogogue of the Ridemonkey Satinists
Oct 26, 2001
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UiUiUiUi said:
but no EVIL guides anymore....

e13 is like methadon to the real thing :(
You should have one custom-made that says "bose." (how the hell do you umlaut on this board??)

MD
 

UiUiUiUi

Turbo Monkey
Feb 2, 2003
1,378
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Berlin, Germany
MikeD said:
You should have one custom-made that says "bose." (how the hell do you umlaut on this board??)

MD
*lol* you mean like that!

BÖSE

yeah that would be nice!

dave or john can i get some BÖSE bashguards? pretty please!!!!
 

Discostu

Monkey
Nov 15, 2003
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UiUiUiUi said:
but no EVIL guides anymore....

e13 is like methadon to the real thing :(
I ordered an e13 SRS about 2 weeks ago, and it came with an Evil bash, not the e.thirteen. I wasn't too happy when i noticed it only came with 4 bolts for the guard instead of 5 needed for my profiles, but oh well. I guess that is the only time I have ever been dissatisfied with an Evil/E13 product.
 

heikkihall

Monkey
Dec 14, 2001
882
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Durango, CO
Discostu said:
I ordered an e13 SRS about 2 weeks ago, and it came with an Evil bash, not the e.thirteen. I wasn't too happy when i noticed it only came with 4 bolts for the guard instead of 5 needed for my profiles, but oh well. I guess that is the only time I have ever been dissatisfied with an Evil/E13 product.
Did you order it direct from the office? Give me a call tommorrow or send me an email (heikkih@e13components.com) with your address and Ill get you set up with the proper ammount of hardware.
 

binary visions

The voice of reason
Jun 13, 2002
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What's the advantage over a pure lexan bashguard? You can pretty much do anything you want to an E.13 guard and nothing bad happens...
 

zedro

Turbo Monkey
Sep 14, 2001
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binary visions said:
What's the advantage over a pure lexan bashguard? You can pretty much do anything you want to an E.13 guard and nothing bad happens...
make it thinner without it shattering (or breaking at the chainring bolts), or conversely not bend thin aluminum. Sorta like the best of both worlds (as in any composite): stength of the aluminum and the toughness of the lexan.
 

Kornphlake

Turbo Monkey
Oct 8, 2002
2,632
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Portland, OR
zedro said:
they stole my idea!

anyways, makes perfect sense in theory...
Have you ever been involved in overmolding? It really isn't as easy as it appears on paper. I'm not sure about overmolding PC, but I'm sure it's not the easiest material to get to work, I'll give MRP props for actually accomplishing it.
 

zedro

Turbo Monkey
Sep 14, 2001
4,144
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Kornphlake said:
Have you ever been involved in overmolding? It really isn't as easy as it appears on paper. I'm not sure about overmolding PC, but I'm sure it's not the easiest material to get to work, I'll give MRP props for actually accomplishing it.
nope, but i did think it would be tricky, and perhaps the bond between the two could have some unpredictable results as far as stress /strain interaction.

like i said, in theory it seems like a good idea.
 

dhmtbj

Monkey
Jan 30, 2002
467
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Boston
Weagle's intelligence scares me at times...but thats why he rocks so much! Unfortunately he will make me a poor man cause I want everything he designs.
 

-dustin

boring
Jun 10, 2002
7,155
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austin
request from soneone not at iB:

could you ask the Evil folks about the aftermarket V bosses for the DOC, please? like, if they will be available right away (as in, shipping with the frames).
 
Sep 28, 2004
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Sweden
Can you buy the e.13 DRS system with other bash-colours than transparent? I would like to have a black bash with the DRS, not a transparent one. :)
 

binary visions

The voice of reason
Jun 13, 2002
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cal // sweden said:
Can you buy the e.13 DRS system with other bash-colours than transparent? I would like to have a black bash with the DRS, not a transparent one. :)
No, you can't. The guide only comes with the clear bashguard, the black ones are available seperately.

freeriding101 said:
i gotta say evil/e.13 is an awsome company, sadly i couldnt get the guide to fit on my bighit
Did you try calling tech support? I'm sure I've seen E.13 guides on BigHits before.

RE: the MRP bashguard, I guess I just don't see the problem with the thick piece of lexan. Why should I care of the guard is thinner? The thicker guard will be more inclined to slide over stuff anyway rather than digging in - more surface area. Seems like a needless complexity. Do lots of people really have a problem with the thick lexan guard?

Not that I'm slamming MRP for producing it - hey, any new product is good. Just not for me, thanks :D
 
Sep 28, 2004
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binary visions said:
No, you can't. The guide only comes with the clear bashguard, the black ones are available seperately.
They really should offer all of the colours in the SRS/DRS-kits. I wont buy the kit if I cant get the bash that I want. Paying for the kit and a separate bash is not acceptable. Why dont they just offer a black, green, red, blue or transparent bash with the kit? How hard can it be?
 

Funky Monk

Monkey
Jul 17, 2003
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near El circulo Polar Arctico
cal // sweden said:
They really should offer all of the colours in the SRS/DRS-kits. I wont buy the kit if I cant get the bash that I want. Paying for the kit and a separate bash is not acceptable. Why dont they just offer a black, green, red, blue or transparent bash with the kit? How hard can it be?
true true...doesn't seem too complicated to offer a few color options to go with the kits..

I'm waiting for my SRS to arrive don't really care for the clear guard that comes with it. I'm thinking of simply selling it and replacing it with a black or a colored one...I know, I know, I'm total whore when comes to parts...oh well, the season's long over due and I've got all the time in the world to build a new rig (hooray!!).
 

binary visions

The voice of reason
Jun 13, 2002
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Alright guys, as someone who works in a manufacturing industry, consider this:

Each part you sell has to have an SKU - this involves a part number, a list of what's in the part, etc.

They sell an SRS chainguide, an STS, an SRS Formula, a DRS. They sell all of these guides in three sizes, and in three different bolt patterns. 4 chainguides x 3 sizes x 3 bolt patterns = 36 different SKUs. Now, JUST to offer a clear bashguard, doubles their number of SKUs to 72. To offer several different bashguards goes even further.

For a small business, that's a whole lot of part numbers and documentation to handle.
 

Transcend

My Nuts Are Flat
Apr 18, 2002
18,040
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Towing the party line.
Funky Monk said:
true true...doesn't seem too complicated to offer a few color options to go with the kits..

I'm waiting for my SRS to arrive don't really care for the clear guard that comes with it. I'm thinking of simply selling it and replacing it with a black or a colored one...I know, I know, I'm total whore when comes to parts...oh well, the season's long over due and I've got all the time in the world to build a new rig (hooray!!).
The problem is trying to keep track of all that stock, and keep it available at all times. It is MUCH easier to half half the amount of kits available, and the colored bashguards available seperately.

edit: beaten like a red headed step child.
 

-dustin

boring
Jun 10, 2002
7,155
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austin
binary visions said:
Alright guys, as someone who works in a manufacturing industry, consider this:

Each part you sell has to have an SKU - this involves a part number, a list of what's in the part, etc.

They sell an SRS chainguide, an STS, an SRS Formula, a DRS. They sell all of these guides in three sizes, and in three different bolt patterns. 4 chainguides x 3 sizes x 3 bolt patterns = 36 different SKUs. Now, JUST to offer a clear bashguard, doubles their number of SKUs to 72. To offer several different bashguards goes even further.

For a small business, that's a whole lot of part numbers and documentation to handle.
i believe dw has said this is, indeed, why they don't offer multiple colors. if it's a big problem, just spraypaint it.

i have a first gen guide that i'm selling for $75 that has a black guard. 40t.
 

binary visions

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Jun 13, 2002
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This is fresh on my mind because I've been discussing (well, mostly listening to discussions on) our corporate strategy for supply management in meetings this week. So, some education for those of you who don't know:

Consider the stocking requirements for a company. They want to make sure they have enough stock on hand to meet customer demand, but too much stock is a waste of storage space, materials, build labor, and the labor that goes into tracking stock. All of which is expensive. So, you look at sales history and market demand to try to predict how much stock you're going to sell in between production runs.

That's a very difficult thing to predict as it is: how many DRS guides are you going to sell? What if the market starts to shift towards SRS guide? Will they want a 36t SRS or an STS guide? 5 bolt or 4 bolt? Now, try to figure out, will they want a blue 4 bolt SRS? A red 5 bolt DRS? A green 5 bolt STS? If you think predicting market shifts between types of guides is hard, try predicting which color people will want! Even if they package it to order, which eliminates the need to have pre-stocked "kits" of the guides with a specific color, there's still the need to know how many of each color guard they will need.

...and that's only one of the aspects of it. There's part number management, packaging requirements, you name it. As much as I agree that it'd be great to be able to order different colors of bashguards with the guides, I completely understand the practical difficulties involved.
 
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Dingus McGee

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Yep, and you won't find a more fickle customer that a bike enthusiast!


binary visions said:
This is fresh on my mind because I've been discussing (well, mostly listening to discussions on) our corporate strategy for supply management in meetings this week. So, some education for those of you who don't know:

Consider the stocking requirements for a company. They want to make sure they have enough stock on hand to meet customer demand, but too much stock is a waste of storage space, materials, build labor, and the labor that goes into tracking stock. All of which is expensive. So, you look at sales history and market demand to try to predict how much stock you're going to sell in between production runs.

That's a very difficult thing to predict as it is: how many DRS guides are you going to sell? What if the market starts to shift towards SRS guide? Will they want a 36t SRS or an STS guide? 5 bolt or 4 bolt? Now, try to figure out, will they want a blue 4 bolt SRS? A red 5 bolt DRS? A green 5 bolt STS? If you think predicting market shifts between types of guides is hard, try predicting which color people will want! Even if they package it to order, which eliminates the need to have pre-stocked "kits" of the guides with a specific color, there's still the need to know how many of each color guard they will need.

...and that's only one of the aspects of it. There's part number management, packaging requirements, you name it. As much as I agree that it'd be great to be able to order different colors of bashguards with the guides, I completely understand the practical difficulties involved.