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Fatal Beating Sparks War against Tulsa's Homeless

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Fatal Beating of Bar Owner by Homeless Man in Tulsa, Okla., Sparks War Against Indigents
ABC News ^ | 8-17-2004 | The Associated Press

TULSA, Okla. Aug. 17, 2004 — A homeless man's fatal beating of a brass-knuckle-wielding bar owner has triggered something approaching a war against Tulsa's homeless population. T-shirts around town blast homeless people with a four-letter word, and some people are warning of vigilante justice. Downtown bar owners have stapled wanted posters to telephone poles with a picture of Terry Badgewell, the man who used a length of pipe to kill Deadtown Tavern owner Shawn Howard.

A prosecutor said the killing was self defense and refused to file charges, but the victim's family is gathering thousands of signatures on a petition to force a grand jury investigation.

"We're very committed," said Howard's mother, Kay. "Shawn deserves this."

Meanwhile, Tulsa's homeless are feeling the heat. Michael Cypert, 31, who usually stays at a Salvation Army shelter near downtown, said patrons of the Deadtown Tavern chased him away from the area during a memorial for Howard a few days after his June 25 death.

Police have warned homeless people to stay away from the bar, and Cypert said has seen people downtown wearing "F--- the homeless" T-shirts handed out by bar owners.

"I think it's crazy to say 'F--- the homeless.' I don't think it's right," he said. "Most of the people I see around here are either mentally ill or have family problems. We don't panhandle over there or anything."

Badgewell left Tulsa after the wanted signs and T-shirts surfaced, said his attorney, Steve Hjelm. He won't say where Badgewell has gone for fear of retribution.

"We took it as a kind of vigilante effort," Hjelm said.

It started in the wee hours of June 24, when Howard and bar manager Josh Martin left the Deadtown Tavern wearing brass knuckles, as usual, for protection against the many vagabonds and drug dealers who inhabit the dimly lit neighborhood.

A fight began with Badgewell, who was resting in a warehouse stairwell across the street. Howard struck Badgewell in the jaw, and the homeless man grabbed a pipe and began swinging.

How it started is unclear. Martin said he and Howard encountered Badgewell while chasing two crack dealers away. District Attorney Tim Harris said the pair told Badgewell to leave the spot where he was preparing to sleep, starting an exchange of words that escalated into violence.

Police called to the scene about 4:30 that morning found Howard unconscious in the parking lot. He died of head injuries the next day.

Badgewell, 38, was arrested on two complaints of assault with a deadly weapon, but he was released June 30 after Harris declined to file charges.

"It is a tragic, tragic deal," Harris said. "But under Oklahoma's law, he has a right to defend himself with as much force as he thinks is necessary."

The Howard family and fellow bar owners were outraged, saying Howard was chased down and bashed repeatedly in the back of the head.

"It just really makes me sick to my stomach that Harris could even consider this self defense, that this man is released into the community," Kay Howard said.

Martin said the decision would spur Tulsans to take vigilante justice against the city's many homeless, who comprise the vast majority of downtown residents after dark. Estimates on the number of homeless in Tulsa at any given time range from 700 to 1,500 in a city of nearly 400,000.

"It's actions like the sort of inaction that's being taken that leads people to chase bums around the back of buildings in downtown Tulsa," Martin said.

Sandra Holden, executive director for the Day Center for the Homeless, said she has warned those who stay at her shelter five blocks from the tavern against sleeping outside while tensions are high.

"Those kinds of things (posters and the T-shirts) concern me greatly," Holden said. "Backlash is a very serious problem. We have seen some of that happening as a result of this incident."

Hjelm maintains that Badgewell, whom he describes as a "cordial" and "soft-spoken man," was merely acting to defend himself.

"Who can say with any degree of certainty what you would do if you were in a deserted warehouse at 4:30 in the morning and two armed men with brass knuckles attack you?" Hjelm said.

However, he thinks Howard's family will have no trouble getting the 5,000 signatures they need from registered voters to force the state attorney general to convene a grand jury, "given the media attention this case has gotten and the fact that Shawn Howard was a very well-liked man."

Hjelm warned that any indictments coming from a grand jury investigation would likely come against Martin, as the sole survivor, for assaulting Badgewell with a deadly weapon.

"It's going to force the hands of the district attorney and the grand jury to go back and look at all the offenses that were committed that night. Terry Badgewell will be exonerated."
 

RhinofromWA

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Sounds like it hit the boiling point.

Some business owner loss his life and people were outraged with the lack of action taken by the police.

On a positive note people are now debating the subject....unfortunately everyone is being pushed to the extreme edges of teh arguement. :(

I skimmed the article but if the homeless man did kill the owner (sounds like everyone is in agreement with that) than the issue of self defense comes in. I don't know iff killing a person threating you with bodily harm (assumption) is excessive. I personally in the homeless guys shoes would make sure I could get away, but killing? That maybe found to be excessive and he will be charged with murder....right?

Maybe this will get the public working on their seemingly large homeless problem?
 

Andyman_1970

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I find it interesting that Tulsa has a Homeless person problem, and yet it has one of the highest concentrations of Pentacostal/Charismatic churches in the US..............sounds like someone forgot to read their Old Testament........... :o:
 

RhinofromWA

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Andyman_1970 said:
I find it interesting that Tulsa has a Homeless person problem, and yet it has one of the highest concentrations of Pentacostal/Charismatic churches in the US..............sounds like someone forgot to read their Old Testament........... :o:
Maybe that is why homeless go there? :rolleyes: Looking for a blessed handout?

I hope it doesn't escalate to much more....they need to bring the locals that are rabid back down to a humane level to possibly handle the situation. I don't even want to dwelve to deep in the details, but I wish them the best of luck finding an answer.

maybe we can send all the homeless to figh the forrest fires? (half serious) The ones that are capable and want to. They will be paid, fed, and be earning a hard honest dollar....you know there will be forest fires pretty steady for years to come.
 

Silver

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After a quick reading of that, (and keep in mind this is without any other data, just the story, so I could be totally wrong) it sounds like the bar owner liked to go out and hassle bums, doesn't it? Especially since no charges were filed...makes me wonder if there were complaints about this guy in the past.
 

Ridemonkey

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Silver said:
After a quick reading of that, (and keep in mind this is without any other data, just the story, so I could be totally wrong) it sounds like the bar owner liked to go out and hassle bums, doesn't it? Especially since no charges were filed...makes me wonder if there were complaints about this guy in the past.
Yeah, and the family said:

The Howard family and fellow bar owners were outraged, saying Howard was chased down and bashed repeatedly in the back of the head.


Which I think would be information that the police could easily verify, but did not.
 

Silver

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The DA sounds pretty sure as well:

"Hjelm warned that any indictments coming from a grand jury investigation would likely come against Martin, as the sole survivor, for assaulting Badgewell with a deadly weapon.

"It's going to force the hands of the district attorney and the grand jury to go back and look at all the offenses that were committed that night. Terry Badgewell will be exonerated."


Edit: Oops, that wasn't the DA, it was Badgewell's attorney.
 

golgiaparatus

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Andyman_1970 said:
I find it interesting that Tulsa has a Homeless person problem, and yet it has one of the highest concentrations of Pentacostal/Charismatic churches in the US..............sounds like someone forgot to read their Old Testament........... :o:
We dont have that many freaky churches... drive to any of the small bordering towns though and you will find tons of them.

I am curious that I havent heard of this little skirmish between some bar owner and a homeless dude especially in my own town. I'll say this though, I seriously doubt that the bum was in the wrong here. I have walked through downtown at night and there arent crack dealers just randomly standing around, nor are the bums trouble makers, most of them are pretty chilled out.

I wonder what bar it was that the brass knucke/bum hater shirt wearin guy was managing. I suspect that he probably started most of the crap and well, obviously should have left the bum dude alone.
 

jollyrodger

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That's pretty wild. I wonder if, say, a member of the "wealthy elite" killed the guy, then they would be handing out shirts that say "phuck the rich" :think: . I think the worst part of this is that the entire homeless population is being targeted.
 

RhinofromWA

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How it started is unclear. Martin said he and Howard encountered Badgewell while chasing two crack dealers away. District Attorney Tim Harris said the pair told Badgewell to leave the spot where he was preparing to sleep, starting an exchange of words that escalated into violence
I can see that playing out and the owner getting all agressive towards Badgewell in the staircase. BOth parties probabl y did a good job of escalating the situation. Owner ended up with a pipe along side his head. :eek:

"It is a tragic, tragic deal," Harris said. "But under Oklahoma's law, he has a right to defend himself with as much force as he thinks is necessary."
That maybe be disputed, cause as far as I know killing someone with a pipe maybe be more than self defense. But I could totally see it being a spot on blow that left the man to die before Badgwell was able to get away. Does killing a man equate to neccessary force?

I guess excessive force will be argued?

Bigger issue is the public anger over the seemingly large population of homeless people in there town. This is just the "straw that broke the camels back" Hopefully this will spark some action (and adverse to the people withthe shirts) and sympathetic people to action.

Good luck Tulsa.
 

RhinofromWA

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fluff said:
After all, your poor are richer than our poor*

*Copyright $tinkle 2003/2004
There is some trueth in that statement. There are different levels of "poor".

While BMW's may not be the most common poor person vehicle. ;) It seems our countries "poor" people can tend to hav material things that would suprise us.

I am not talking about the unfortunates that have everything they own in a shopping cart. I am talking about the poor families that are renting a run down home but still find $$$ for cable or a TV for that matter.

But your post was funny none the less. :D

Don't your homeless hop on the freight trains like ours do in our movies? :)
 

fluff

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RhinofromWA said:
There is some trueth in that statement. There are different levels of "poor".
Aye.

RhinofromWA said:
Don't your homeless hop on the freight trains like ours do in our movies? :)
We don't got no freight trains no more. The gubment done got rid of 'em all. All de freight on de roads now. Can't move for damn trucks.
 

MMike

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