[Jr_Bullit]

I am extremely glad that no one in my family now falls into this category. My dad has completely re-done his life in order to become healthy. Prior to his last three years of trial and error and finally success, we all watched with worry and concern as he battled a lifetime of genetics and bad eating habits and continued to grow rounder. My mum has also dropped many sizes, though never obese, prior to the life time changes in our family she was oft described by my friends as "the cute, round, grandmothery type figure." Knowing how hard they worked to get where they are now, I know it's not impossible for anyone to become healthy, if they're committed and if everyone close to them is supportive.

That being said - I stumbled across this report today on MSN:

http://content.health.msn.com/content/article/95/103430.htm

Now, I lived in Japan and China, and both had community exercise programs. In Japan the lifestyle in the smaller town I lived with had a daily "stretch" that was voluntary, and healthy, and got the community together every morning to stretch and exercise together. Additionally, high fat foods like ours were still quite unknown to them - oddities, not normal foods. If anything, I think the US would do well to learn from its more slender and healthy peer nations to make some changes.

I firmly believe the changes start at the family and community level - I live in an apartment in a smaller town, if they had a daily stretching session I'd definitely find a way to participate or at least support it however I could. I also agree that it needs to be a national effort to really get the communities involved. I'm not talking socialist styles here - just purely a voluntary group that gets their butts up in the morning, in the cold, outside, and chants their stretches out together and enjoys themselves before work, and encourages the fatsos to join them.

Doesn't this weigh on anyone else's minds?

 

[Silver]

Doesn't this weigh on anyone else's minds?

Pun of the month, for sure!

 

[Jr_Bullit]

hahaha, the wine is getting to me - and I've only had 1/2 a glass!!! :blush: I didn't even realize I was bein funny

 

[Changleen]

Hmm, I don't know about following the example of any other country. Arn't they all terrorists anyway? The USA knows best. Everyone else is just a bunch of Fags who you should not give a toss about, apparantly. If you're fat, it's because God wanted you that way. To go against his will would be unpatriotic, I'm sure.

 

[BurlyShirley]

Who really cares if people are fat? I dont. **** them I say. Let them eat Funyuns til their hearts stop.

 

[Changleen]

Who really cares if people are fat? I dont. **** them I say. Let them eat Funyuns til their hearts stop.

Man, you're feeling nihilistic today! Is everything OK at home?

 

[BurlyShirley]

Man, you're feeling nihilistic today! Is everything OK at home?

No seriously. Why does it matter? Its their own fat fault if those fatty fat fatty Mcfats cant stop eating. If they cared, they'd exercise. Why should I care for them?

 

[Changleen]

No seriously. Why does it matter? Its their own fat fault if those fatty fat fatty Mcfats cant stop eating. If they cared, they'd exercise. Why should I care for them?

Fat people are a burden on society. Your tax dollar is spent on the effects of them being fat (social security, benefits, etc.) Now there's a reason for you, Burly - selfishness.

 

[Jr_Bullit]

You're how old? and fresh outta the military? Give yerself like 10 years and let's hear this argument again as you fight the onslaught of a gut. Seriously - Americans seem to think that because you're "okay" when in your tweens and twenties it's okay to not care - but then adulthood hits and on come the pounds from all those ****ty habits developed when you were young.
My new employee is only 2 years younger than me, and when he moves he jiggles like jello - and he's not yet obese, just soft and has no self control.

 

[BurlyShirley]

Fat people are a burden on society. Your tax dollar is spent on the effects of them being fat (social security, benefits, etc.) Now there's a reason for you, Burly - selfishness.

Are we talking about people so fat that they're uninsured? I say we just deny them healthcare.

 

[Jr_Bullit]

We could do as the Vikings did and kill all fatsos as a burden on society, and the fact that they contribute so little to others....

 

[BurlyShirley]

You're how old? and fresh outta the military? Give yerself like 10 years and let's hear this argument again as you fight the onslaught of a gut. Seriously - Americans seem to think that because you're "okay" when in your tweens and twenties it's okay to not care - but then adulthood hits and on come the pounds from all those ****ty habits developed when you were young.
My new employee is only 2 years younger than me, and when he moves he jiggles like jello - and he's not yet obese, just soft and has no self control.

I dont think Im genetically predisposed to such a thing. Therefore, I am a superior being and in the right to laugh at those less fortunate.

 

[Changleen]

Are we talking about people so fat that they're uninsured? I say we just deny them healthcare.

Those who drop out of work at 45, those who need emergency medical care, there's all types of reasons why they cost more money than healthy people. Even those with insurance push up your insurance costs too as they will, on average, require more medical treatment than you.

What about smokers and people who ride motorbikes without helmets? Do they get denied healthcare too?

 

[BurlyShirley]

What about smokers and people who ride motorbikes without helmets? Do they get denied healthcare too?

Smokers who continue to smoke while uninsured and are already being treated: Yes.

Motorbikes: Nah.

 

[Changleen]

You should run for President. All you have to do is be sure about your position, and ignore everyone else, unless they give you money. You seem to have it down to a tee.

 

[valve bouncer]

The problem is that humans are genetically predisposed to getting fat. I don't see the problem with being a little overweight, but morbidly obese people are a worry healthwise. Kind of agree with Shirley here though, who cares, if they wanna be fat let them.

 

[Changleen]

I thought they were 'victims'? Surley they don't 'want' to be fat? Doesn't McDonalds owe them something?

 

[Jr_Bullit]

I dont think Im genetically predisposed to such a thing. Therefore, I am a superior being and in the right to laugh at those less fortunate.

Blonde haired and Blue eyed too? (kidding) - there's a side (a big one) of me that looks down on those who exercise little self-control - and seem to think the rest of the world should adjust to their wide asses....

The flipside of the coin - as my conscience periodically disagrees with my disdain for extreme obese jiggly masses, I feel like we should, as a society, encourage them to be healthier....

Though, it is personal choice to be fat or thin...our culture seems to enjoy encouraging the over-indulgence that is uniquely american.

 

[BurlyShirley]

Blonde haired and Blue eyed too?

Yes, actually. :evil:

 

[Jr_Bullit]

Yes, actually. :evil:

Totally against them dark haired fatso faggots, but willing to consider them softie blondses and blue eyeses?

If you're anti fat blubber - must be equally against fat blubber

 

[BurlyShirley]

Totally against them dark haired fatso faggots, but willing to consider them softie blondses and blue eyeses?

If you're anti fat blubber - must be equally against fat blubber

When I say I dont mind the occasional fatty, Im talking about nice, full-figured healthy women, not volkswagen-sized behemoths that eat KFC buckets as appetizers. Think pre-disgusto Anna Nicole.

 

[Jr_Bullit]

ditto - but the trend is toward soft americans who are soft of mind, soft of body, soft of conscience, soft of personality. blech, like the slug you pour salt on in your youth when your body has yet to succumb to the days of oreos and ice cream and chips and dips - watch it turn inside out and you realize it's made up of little substance.

 

[BurlyShirley]

ditto - but the trend is toward soft americans who are soft of mind, soft of body, soft of conscience, soft of personality. blech, like the slug you pour salt on in your youth when your body has yet to succumb to the days of oreos and ice cream and chips and dips - watch it turn inside out and you realize it's made up of little substance.

fer chrissakes. lay off the hate. dayum! they're just fat. they didnt molest little kids or anything.

 

[ALEXIS_DH]

well, in a world where half the people is poor, and there is a lot of people starving to death.....

to be so fat that it threathens your health is the ultimate paradox....

in most cases, seems a voluntary problem, like smoking.
of course there are biological tendencies in some people to get fatter.
BUT its impossible to get fat, unless you eat more joules than you spend. and the decisition ultimately is up to the person.

 

[Damn True]

Fat people are a burden on society. Your tax dollar is spent on the effects of them being fat (social security, benefits, etc.) Now there's a reason for you, Burly - selfishness.

You mean like welfare recipients?

 

[Jr_Bullit]

You mean like welfare recipients?

Yes exactly, and the unemployed who stay unemployed AND mooch off the system for more than a year.

 

[Jr_Bullit]

I wonder if anyone has done a study correlating those on government financial assistance and BMI?

 

[BurlyShirley]

Yes exactly, and the unemployed who stay unemployed AND mooch off the system for more than a year.

yeah. and people in wheel chairs too. **** those guys.

 

[Jr_Bullit]

Hey, wheelchair a person can rarely do anything about - but welfare - you can actually get off yer fat lazy butt and get a job right? do something to improve your life rather than suck the system dry....

Those I see at the grocery with food stamps are rarely in wheelchairs, but often very healthy individuals who could, but choose not to, participate in society - in any form other than to take from those who work

 

[BurlyShirley]

Hey, wheelchair a person can rarely do anything about

I think they're faking it a good 80% of the time. Too lazy to walk.

 

[Jr_Bullit]

Okey dokey - let's cut yer legs off and you can claim to be a victim of 'nam and hangout on the street corners and beg for whatever

But fat-ism and mooch-ism are problems a person can choose to deal with.

 

[Skookum]

Who really cares if people are fat? I dont. **** them I say. Let them eat Funyuns til their hearts stop.

ahahahahaha........... i'm gonna puke.....

 

[BurlyShirley]

But fat-ism and mooch-ism are problems a person can choose to deal with.

Moochism I really dont like. Fatism, I really dont care about though. Let the fat be fat. Its who they are. Just like kids who wear black all the time and studded belts. Sure, they may cost society more in psychiatry bills, but whatever. They;re just expressing their individuality Actually, I hate those people. But fats dont bother me. Unless they get sweat on me.

 

[Changleen]

This thread is great...

 

[Skookum]

i think i just lost 5 lbs i'm laughin so hard.....

 

[Damn True]

Okey dokey - let's cut yer legs off and you can claim to be a victim of 'nam and hangout on the street corners and beg for whatever

But fat-ism and mooch-ism are problems a person can choose to deal with.

So fat career welfare recipients are bad, but thin career welfare recipients are ok?

 

[BurlyShirley]

So fat career welfare recipients are bad, but thin career welfare recipients are ok?

Well they use up like twice the food stamps...

 

[Jr_Bullit]

I've had too much to drink, and just fell off my seat!

No - bums is bums True, you knows this, and are just being argumentative. But Burly brought in the folks on wheels chairs. You can't help being in a wheelchair, but you can help being fat, and you can help being on welfare.

Those who make a career out of exploiting government programs are to be commended for their ...creative...existence, but are to be hung for their enjoyment of exploiting those who would work for their existence and pleasure.

Those who make a career of cramming oreos down their throat, carbs, whatever, and seek no assistance for their ever growing belt other than copies of cosmo deserve the waistline they get and should be denied governmental assistance.

My point was - there's no excuse to be fat, and everyone can drop it if they chose and work for it. **** they had to work at getting there.

 

[Damn True]

Hey I'm not disagreeing with you (ya gorgeous little thing) just pointing out the irony related to a recent discussion.

 

[Changleen]

Hey I'm not disagreeing with you (ya gorgeous little thing) just pointing out the irony related to a recent discussion.

Whatever. It wasn't funny. This is a funny thread. :eviltongu