Fettuccini Smoked Salmon with a Red Chile Cream Sauce

SkaredShtles · Feb 28, 2005

I don't really like salmon.

-S.S.-

OGRipper · Mar 3, 2006

Sounds pretty good but I am not a big fan of smoked salmon in things that are cooked further. I would rather have some tasty salmon app and then...Carbonara!!

narlus · Mar 3, 2006

carbonara..

:drool:

N8, CI has a great recipe for that...it'll clog yr bloodflow faster than ingesting straight crisco though.

Dartman · Mar 3, 2006

Smoked salmon is pretty good...

...but it's real hard to keep lit man! :cool:

Brian HCM#1 · Mar 4, 2006

I love smoked salmon!!!!!!

DaveW · Mar 4, 2006

Sounds good, I might try that one later this week.

Nobody · Mar 13, 2006

I assume [which makes and 'ass' out of 'u' and 'me'] that for smoked salmon you're referring to the chunk version made popular on the west coast, as opposed to 'lox' which is similar to the Nova Scotia smoked salmon.

I've tried virtually the same dish several times with Pacific style salmon, and once or twice with leftover cooked filets.

In my variation, i use ground chipotle peppers with a mix of cumin and paprika as my 'chile powder'. Oh, and I add a couple finely chopped or minced cloves of garlic with the onion.

Solid recipe.

You should take some pics!

DaveW · Mar 13, 2006

I got a smoked fillet on Wednsday last week cut it up in Big chunks and tried the recipie.

Very very nice. :thumb:

OGRipper · Mar 13, 2006

N8 said:
It was not the lox type.. I cut the filet's chunky...

Ahhhhhh, now I understand better - to me, the only smoked salmon is the soft lox type. :love: Makes more sense if you're talking about the other style, thanks for clearing that up Nobody.

SkaredShtles · Mar 13, 2006

OGRipper said:
Ahhhhhh, now I understand better - to me, the only smoked salmon is the soft lox type.

Do you live in a cave or something? :think:

OGRipper · Mar 13, 2006

SkaredShtles said:
Do you live in a cave or something?

You, of all people, should understand that the only smoked anything I usually want near my pasta is bacon. You know, from one of these:

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SkaredShtles · Mar 13, 2006

OGRipper said:
You, of all people, should understand that the only smoked anything I usually want near my pasta is bacon. You know, from one of these: ink:

Well, I'd agree with you there. I just found it odd that you weren't aware of non-lox type smoked salmon.

Although I'm pretty sure you were foolin'............

Edit: the restaurant we hit this past weekend had an appetizer that was simply called "Fresh bacon" :drool:

OGRipper · Mar 13, 2006

SkaredShtles said:
Well, I'd agree with you there. I just found it odd that you weren't aware of non-lox type smoked salmon.

Although I'm pretty sure you were foolin'............

Edit: the restaurant we hit this past weekend had an appetizer that was simply called "Fresh bacon"

Well, I've had the stuff but am not really a fan - for me the real allure of smoked (or cured, gravlax-style) salmon is the texture, so that other stuff doesn't really do it for me.

"Fresh bacon"? Um, if it's not cured shouldn't it be called pork belly?

SkaredShtles · Mar 13, 2006

OGRipper said:
Well, I've had the stuff but am not really a fan - for me the real allure of smoked (or cured, gravlax-style) salmon is the texture, so that other stuff doesn't really do it for me.

"Fresh bacon"? Um, if it's not cured shouldn't it be called pork belly?

It is

http://www.riojadenver.com/dinner.html

Most people would freak if you put "pork belly" on the menu, though.

OGRipper · Mar 13, 2006

SkaredShtles said:
It is

http://www.riojadenver.com/dinner.html

Most people would freak if you put "pork belly" on the menu, though.

Damn, that menu has some really tasty sounding food - my kind of place right there!!

"Fresh bacon" is a strange way to describe it but I understand why. I had a scary thought of bacon sashimi. Regardless, I hope whatever bacon they serve is "fresh."

Pork belly is starting to show up on menus around here more and more, usually braised or confit style then seared.

SkaredShtles · Mar 13, 2006

OGRipper said:
Damn, that menu has some really tasty sounding food - my kind of place right there!!

"Fresh bacon" is a strange way to describe it but I understand why. I had a scary thought of bacon sashimi. Regardless, I hope whatever bacon they serve is "fresh."

Pork belly is starting to show up on menus around here more and more, usually braised or confit style then seared.

It was tasty. :thumb:

The duck confit I had was the only thing that was a bit of a bummer.

Nobody · Mar 14, 2006

I'm not sold on duck confit, in general.

I like my duck hot.

as rude as that sounds...

SkaredShtles · Mar 14, 2006

Nobody said:
I'm not sold on duck confit, in general.

I like my duck hot.

as rude as that sounds...

Mmmmmm.......... hot duck. :drool:

Yeah - this confit was super salty. Too salty to actually be enjoyed, IMO.

OGRipper · Mar 14, 2006

Nobody said:
I'm not sold on duck confit, in general.

I like my duck hot.

as rude as that sounds...

I like the texture and flavor...and I usually eat it hot/warm. An easy meal I really like is to take a couple confit legs/thighs, wipe off the excess fat, sear the skin side for a few minutes until brown and crispy, then warm through in the oven and serve over frisee or other greens with a tangy vinagrette, maybe a few roasted parsnip chunks or other roots. I also like the meat tossed with pasta and something like wilted chard or other bitter greens. Or...well you get the idea...

Nobody · Mar 14, 2006

OGRipper said:
I like the texture and flavor...and I usually eat it hot/warm. An easy meal I really like is to take a couple confit legs/thighs, wipe off the excess fat, sear the skin side for a few minutes until brown and crispy, then warm through in the oven and serve over frisee or other greens with a tangy vinagrette, maybe a few roasted parsnip chunks or other roots. I also like the meat tossed with pasta and something like wilted chard or other bitter greens. Or...well you get the idea...

Okay, the concept makes sense but the confit part is confusing.

confit is a preserved cooked duck (or other food) that is stored as a, um, loaf or such thing in the fridge.

did you mean a couple slices of confit, particularly of the dark end, etc?

Reference:

"The French word confit means preserved, and the process was devised as a means of preserving a variety of meats and poultry most traditionally goose, duck, or pork. It involves fully curing the meat in salt, then poaching it slowly in fat, and storing it covered with the fat until you are ready to eat it or cook with it. The technique evolved over thousands of years in cultures around the world, but, clearly, it is a dying art.

Curing the meat in salt makes the water in it unavailable to microorganisms, which renders them incapable of causing spoilage. Covering the meat with at least an inch of fat after it has been cooked keeps air from reaching it, further retarding the tendency to spoil. If the meat has been properly cured, a confit will keep in a cool, dark place (a cellar or refrigerator) for six months. You can also renew a confit after the first six months by recooking it, in which case, it will last for another four to six months. (For best, flavor, however, the confit should be consumed within three to five months of the initial cooking).

Most of the 47 people in the world who actually still make confits omit the salt-curing step, however, greatly diminishing its shelf-life. If you go this route, you can store a confit in the refrigerator for as long as a month."

SkaredShtles · Mar 14, 2006

No wonder it was so damn salty.

Atomic Dog · Mar 14, 2006

Mmm. I have a couple whole salmon in my freezer waiting to be put in the smoker. I'm gonna have to give this a try when it's done.

OGRipper · Mar 14, 2006

Nobody said:
Okay, the concept makes sense but the confit part is confusing.

confit is a preserved cooked duck (or other food) that is stored as a, um, loaf or such thing in the fridge.

did you mean a couple slices of confit, particularly of the dark end, etc?

Well, I'm not sure what you mean by the "loaf" part, the confit meat I've seen is either stored in duck or goose fat, or vacuum packed. Sometimes the meat is removed from the bones, sometimes not. I usually buy pre-made, vacuum packed whole duck legs (with thigh) on the bone. I make braised duck legs now and then that are very tender but they don't have the same cured/earthy flavor.

Also, it doesn't necessarily need to be in the fridge, although that is where most people store it. The technique comes from a time before refrigeration and is a way to preserve cooked meat.

Here is one person's take on how to make it: http://forums.egullet.org/index.php?showtopic=58097

PS, I am just a hack home cook and will defer to a pro, but I think what I'm saying is correct...

Nobody · Mar 14, 2006

OGRipper said:
Well, I'm not sure what you mean by the "loaf" part, the confit meat I've seen is either stored in duck or goose fat, or vacuum packed. Sometimes the meat is removed from the bones, sometimes not. I usually buy pre-made, vacuum packed whole duck legs (with thigh) on the bone. I make braised duck legs now and then that are very tender but they don't have the same cured/earthy flavor.

Also, it doesn't necessarily need to be in the fridge, although that is where most people store it. The technique comes from a time before refrigeration and is a way to preserve cooked meat.

Here is one person's take on how to make it: http://forums.egullet.org/index.php?showtopic=58097

PS, I am just a hack home cook and will defer to a pro, but I think what I'm saying is correct...

I wasn't wholly disagreeing with anyone. the 'loaf' crap comes from a few encounters with people making their own in Pate tins... assuming you've ever seen one of those. They look like tiny bread baking tins.

anyway, mostly irellevant, as the point, as you so rightly pointed out, was to preserve the meat in those days before refridgeration. [please scan upwards and see my earlier post about "Reference"]

The thing is, in my mind, Confit is something that has been 'processed' to preserve it, but getting parts [leg, thigh] from the meatshoppe and doing your own thing is a world of difference - and a far more admirable one, so Kudos to you!

My last encounter in a 4-star restaurant who should have known better was a cold 'pressed duck' confit that was heavy, salty and boring.

I cried a river, lemme tell ya.

OGRipper · Mar 15, 2006

Nobody said:
I wasn't wholly disagreeing with anyone. the 'loaf' crap comes from a few encounters with people making their own in Pate tins... assuming you've ever seen one of those. They look like tiny bread baking tins.

anyway, mostly irellevant, as the point, as you so rightly pointed out, was to preserve the meat in those days before refridgeration. [please scan upwards and see my earlier post about "Reference"]

The thing is, in my mind, Confit is something that has been 'processed' to preserve it, but getting parts [leg, thigh] from the meatshoppe and doing your own thing is a world of difference - and a far more admirable one, so Kudos to you!

My last encounter in a 4-star restaurant who should have known better was a cold 'pressed duck' confit that was heavy, salty and boring.

I cried a river, lemme tell ya.

Ha ha, thanks for the kudos but I don't usually make it myself! I dont get it very often but when I do I buy the same, fairly local product and the quality is consistently pretty dang good to me.

And yeah I completely agree that buying pre-made confit is less than ideal...but it is really convenient for home cooking for two during a busy week. I find that I can either use a few shortcuts or end up eating more poorly (ordering in, etc.).

narlus · Mar 15, 2006

timely recipe from today's Boston Globe:

Cookbook author Paula Wolfert recommends letting the confit age at least a week or two.

6 duck legs (Moulard, Muscovy, or Pekin), rinsed
3 tablespoons kosher salt
1 1/2 tablespoons chopped shallots
1 teaspoon chopped garlic plus 1 whole head of garlic, halved crosswise
1 1/2 tablespoons chopped parsley
2 teaspoons black peppercorns, lightly crushed
1 bay leaf, crumbled
1 sprig fresh thyme, chopped
6 cups (approximately) rendered duck or goose fat (more if you're using Muscovy duck)
2 whole cloves
Salt (for sprinkling)

1. In a large bowl, toss the duck legs with the salt, shallots, chopped garlic, parsley, peppercorns, bay leaf, and thyme. Cover with plastic wrap and refrigerate 18 to 24 hours.

2. Rinse the legs thoroughly; pat dry.

3. In a large Dutch oven, melt the rendered duck fat over low heat. Stick a clove into each half-head of garlic and add to the melted fat. With tongs, add the duck legs, which should be almost entirely covered by the fat. Cook, uncovered, over low heat for 1 hour or until the fat reaches 190 degrees (use a candy thermometer). Add additional fat, if necessary, to cover the duck. Continue cooking until the fat reaches 192 to 210 degrees, but no higher. Adjust the heat level so the fat doesn't get hotter and continue cooking for 1 hour more (2 hours more for Muscovy) or until a skewer inserted into the thickest part of a thigh comes out easily and the skin pulls away from the bone. Remove from the heat and let the duck cool in the fat for 1 hour.

4. Meanwhile, set out three 1-quart earthenware or glass crocks or jars. Rinse them with boiling water and dry the insides. Sprinkle 1/2 teaspoon salt in the bottom of each container. Use a slotted spoon to transfer the duck legs to the containers. Heat the cooking fat over medium heat until a few bubbles rise to the surface. Skim the foam. Let the fat bubble slowly for about 5 minutes or until the surface is clear. Do not let it smoke or burn.

5. Set a fine-mesh strainer over one of the crocks or jars. Carefully ladle hot fat through the strainer onto the legs, adding enough to cover them. Leave 1 inch of space at the top of the rim. Don't use the cloudy fat or meat juices at the bottom of the fat. Rap the containers gently to tamp out air pockets. Leave to cool, uncovered. Cover and refrigerate overnight or until the fat congeals. Store in the refrigerator for at least 1 week and up to six months.

6. To serve: Warm the crocks in a pan of warm water to soften the fat (this will take about 2 to 4 hours). Remove the legs you need. For safety, all confit should be heated through before serving.

7. Steam the legs over boiling water, heat them in a 350 degree oven for 10 to 15 minutes or until hot, or crisp the skin by broiling them skin side up for 6 to 8 minutes or baking them skin side up in a 425 degree oven for 10 to 15 minutes or until crisp.

Adapted from ''The Cooking of Southwest France"

TN · Dec 23, 2010

what, no can of cream of mushroom soup?

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