[girociclo]

Hi guys, I want to buy my first downhill bike and I'm hesitating between 2 models.

The first one is a second-hand commençal supreme 8 (2012).
The second one is a brand-new ironhorse yakuza ojiki (2008).

Both are the same price. Which one do you recommend me ?

 

[Electric_City]

What are the prices? The Yakuza was introduced for exactly what you're doing - people looking to get into riding at an affordable price. The Commencial will be a full-on dh race bike. Give us some more information. Cost, forks, condition, brakes, wheels and where you live/will be riding if possible and we can help you out more with that info. EC

 

[Mo(n)arch]

^This. I'd go with the newer bike though, even if it's been ridden already. Modern geometry, newer parts...

Oh and welcome to the

 

[jonKranked]

i would recommend the commencal. if only for the fact that the company is still in business, so if something on it breaks you will still be able to get a replacement part.

 

[girociclo]

The price of both is almost the same: commençal costs 999€ an the Yakuza 1007€.
Here are the specs :

Commençal:

Frame New Supreme 8
Shock Fox Van R
Fork Marzocchi 66RCV 180mm
Headset FSA ZS-4D tapered + 1”1/8 adaptator
Stem Race Face Respond
Bars New Ç lowriser 740mm
Grips Ç Deluxe Lock-On
Brakes Avid Elixir 3 203/203
Shifters Shimano DEORE right
Front Mech E13 LS1 W/ Taco
Rear Mech Shimano SLX shadow
Bottom Bracket FSA Mega Exo
Cranks FSA Gravity Gap DH 36T 170mm
Chain Shimano HG 9s
Cassette Sram PG-950 11-28
Rims Alex rims FR32
Hubs Ç disc+ sealed bearings 12mm rear/20mm front
Spokes Stainless 64p 3x lacing
Tires Kenda Nevegal 26×2.5
Seatpost New Ç no offset
Saddle New Ç no offset
Colour Yellow cab
Weight 19,1Kg

This bike is second-hand but in the photo it looks in good shape.

Yakuza :

Frame 7" TRAVEL FREERIDE DUAL SUSPENSION SINGLE PIVOT W/ SEALED BEARINGS, 1.5 HEADTUBE, REPLACEABLE DERAILLEUR HANGER, INTERNATIONAL DISC BRAKE MOUNT
Fork MARZOCCHI 55R, THRU AXLE, 160MM TRAVEL
Shock FOX VAN R, 8.75"X2.75"
Rims WTB DUAL DUTY FREERIDE, 32H
Mech Front:ALLOY DISC, THRU AXLE, 32H. Rear:ALLOY DISC, 32H
Tires ITS 909 FRO COMPOUND, DUAL PLY, 2.5" FRONT & REAR
Spokes 14G STAINLESS BLACK
Pedals WELLGO ALLOY PLATFORM
Conrods FSA GRAVITY MOTO X MEGAEXO, 170MM. 36/22T
Chain KMC Z72
Pedalier FSA MEGAEXO, 73MM
Siding SRAM X.5, 34.9MM CLAMP
Gear change SRAM X.5 MID CAGE
Bars FUNN 318, 30MM RISE, 710MM WIDTH, 31.8MM CLAMP
Direction BIG FAT PIG 1.5R
Brakes SHIMANO M485 HYDRAULIC W/ 203MM ROTORS
Saddle WTB PURE V RACE
Seatpost FUNN SPLINED V3, 30.0MM

This bike is brand-new.


I'm from Andorra so there is where i'm going to ride, i don't know if this helps ...

 

[jonKranked]

ironhorse is no longer in business. if something breaks on the frame, you are pretty much SOL.

 

[jonKranked]

the commencal also has a better parts spec.

 

[norbar]

Commencal is french so their CS is far from good and the supremes had some issues (alignment on some frames) but I'd still get it. It's very popular in yurp so worst case scenario you can find used parts abroad. Not so easy for an old discontinued frame.

 

[Tomasz]

Commencal.

 

[blindboxx2334]

as long as theres nothing glaringly obvious that you shouldnt buy the commie, i say get it!

got a pic of it?

 

[tuumbaq]

I'm from Andorra so there is where i'm going to ride, i don't know if this helps ...

...uuuh thats no brainer then, BUY A LOCAL BRAND and get the Commencal . . . Its also a superior bike

 

[girociclo]

It looks really one sided so i think I'm getting the commençal.

Here you have a pic:




I have to say that I love how this bike looks.
Thank you all for the help .

 

[blindboxx2334]

those brakes arent elixir 3s. they look like hope.. although thats not a bad thing!