Too damn FUNNY!!!!
First Kerry Accepts, then Denys, then Rejects Foreign Endorsements
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As ever N8 you are to be congratulated on your use of a very misleading headline in a most partisan way. You are truly earning that picture of yourself with your head up George W Bush's ass.
I like this bit myself:
Cheney said during a GOP fund-raiser this week, "We are the ones who get to determine the outcome of this election, not unnamed foreign leaders."
I like this bit myself:
Cheney said during a GOP fund-raiser this week, "We are the ones who get to determine the outcome of this election, not unnamed foreign leaders."
Whatever...
But, the facts are that Kerry first said he had 'met with' foreign leaders who endorsed him then after it was shown that this was in fact not possible (Kerry had not been in the same vincinity of any foreign leaders for months and months), Kerry said that when he said 'met with' he really meant 'talked on the phone to' and denied ever implying he had a 'face to face' meeting.
Now, after bragging about the 'said foriegn endorsement,' it appears he is now rejecting any notion of foriegn endorsement.
He's now played on all sides of the issue in typical Kerry fashion.
But, the facts are that Kerry first said he had 'met with' foreign leaders who endorsed him then after it was shown that this was in fact not possible (Kerry had not been in the same vincinity of any foreign leaders for months and months), Kerry said that when he said 'met with' he really meant 'talked on the phone to' and denied ever implying he had a 'face to face' meeting.
Now, after bragging about the 'said foriegn endorsement,' it appears he is now rejecting any notion of foriegn endorsement.
He's now played on all sides of the issue in typical Kerry fashion.
All of that was in the link you posted?
Good god pommie-boy.... do you actually READ these threads? All of the foriegn endorsement stuff has been post and is on zee web.
Kerry also has been endorsed by Spain's new socialist PM.
I read your post. It said very little pertaining to the subject line. Am I asking too much for your thread titles to reflect the contents of the post with which you initiate the thread?
Apologies.. I assumed you were up to speed on the whole Kerry "I've been endorsed by un-named foriegn leaders" issue.
It's domestic politics to you, international politics to me!
1. Ive met foreign leaders who cant go out and say this publicly, but boy they look at you and say, Youve got to win this, youve got to beat this guy, we need a new policy, things like that, [Kerry] said.
(Patricia Wilson, Kerry Predicts Character Attacks, Foreign Support, Reuters, 3/8/04)
2. In terms of who he's talked to, we're not going to discuss that, spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter said yesterday. I know it would be helpful, but we're not going into that. His counsels are kept private.
(Charles Hurt and Stephen Dinan, Kerry Fails To Back Up Foreign Endorsements, The Washington Times, 3/12/04)
3. The town meeting was contentious at times, with 52-year-old Cedric Brown repeatedly pressing the candidate to name the foreign leaders whom Kerry has said are backing his campaign. I'm not going to betray a private conversation with anybody, Kerry said. That's none of your business.
(Mike Glover, Kerry Talks Health Care In Two Battleground States, The Associated Press, 3/14/04)
4. Kerry Believes He Heard From Foreign Leaders, While Continuing To Assert He Also Had Meetings And Conversations. [K]erry disputed the wording of his comment, and tried to change the subject from individual leaders specific support of his efforts to oust President Bush to a broader deterioration of the United States international reputation. I think the quote, the quote in the comment I made publicly, I believe, was that I heard from, thats the direct quote, Mr. Kerry said. Ive likewise had meetings. Ive also had conversations. I said Ive heard from, that was what I believe I said.
(Jodi Wilgoren, Kerry Remark On Foreign Leaders Faulted, The New York Times, 3/15/04)
5. His Aides Try To Change Their Story. But the campaign said Monday that the Globe's clarification demonstrates some ambiguity about what Kerry meant. His reference to more leaders, said Kerry's spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter, could mean anybody. The media's repeated references to foreign leaders allowed critics to suggest he was talking about heads of state. He was misquoted, said Cutter. Had he not been misquoted, this wouldn't be a story.
(Matea Gold, Kerry Pushed On Claim As Reporter Corrects Quote, Los Angeles Times, 3/16/04)
6. But Kerry Never Disputed Meaning Of What He Said. During the past week, Kerry never disputed that he was talking about foreign leaders when referring to dissatisfaction abroad with Bush. He told reporters Sunday he was talking about people around the world at different levels.
(Matea Gold, Kerry Pushed On Claim As Reporter Corrects Quote, Los Angeles Times, 3/16/04)
7. Boston Globe Reporter Corrected His Report Of Kerrys Wording. The Boston Globe reporter who was covering a Florida fundraiser for Kerry on March 8 wrote in a pool report, which was distributed to the rest of the press corps, that Kerry said he had spoken with foreign leaders who had indicated they want him to beat Bush. But on Monday, the reporter said that, upon review of his tape, he realized that Kerry had in fact said more leaders want him to beat Bush.
(Matea Gold, Kerry Pushed On Claim As Reporter Corrects Quote, Los Angeles Times, 3/16/04)
9. Now Kerry rejects all foreign leader endorsements.
*Note I added the first couple links to the news reports, but I'm sure you can Google the rest by the title of the report.
(Patricia Wilson, Kerry Predicts Character Attacks, Foreign Support, Reuters, 3/8/04)
2. In terms of who he's talked to, we're not going to discuss that, spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter said yesterday. I know it would be helpful, but we're not going into that. His counsels are kept private.
(Charles Hurt and Stephen Dinan, Kerry Fails To Back Up Foreign Endorsements, The Washington Times, 3/12/04)
3. The town meeting was contentious at times, with 52-year-old Cedric Brown repeatedly pressing the candidate to name the foreign leaders whom Kerry has said are backing his campaign. I'm not going to betray a private conversation with anybody, Kerry said. That's none of your business.
(Mike Glover, Kerry Talks Health Care In Two Battleground States, The Associated Press, 3/14/04)
4. Kerry Believes He Heard From Foreign Leaders, While Continuing To Assert He Also Had Meetings And Conversations. [K]erry disputed the wording of his comment, and tried to change the subject from individual leaders specific support of his efforts to oust President Bush to a broader deterioration of the United States international reputation. I think the quote, the quote in the comment I made publicly, I believe, was that I heard from, thats the direct quote, Mr. Kerry said. Ive likewise had meetings. Ive also had conversations. I said Ive heard from, that was what I believe I said.
(Jodi Wilgoren, Kerry Remark On Foreign Leaders Faulted, The New York Times, 3/15/04)
5. His Aides Try To Change Their Story. But the campaign said Monday that the Globe's clarification demonstrates some ambiguity about what Kerry meant. His reference to more leaders, said Kerry's spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter, could mean anybody. The media's repeated references to foreign leaders allowed critics to suggest he was talking about heads of state. He was misquoted, said Cutter. Had he not been misquoted, this wouldn't be a story.
(Matea Gold, Kerry Pushed On Claim As Reporter Corrects Quote, Los Angeles Times, 3/16/04)
6. But Kerry Never Disputed Meaning Of What He Said. During the past week, Kerry never disputed that he was talking about foreign leaders when referring to dissatisfaction abroad with Bush. He told reporters Sunday he was talking about people around the world at different levels.
(Matea Gold, Kerry Pushed On Claim As Reporter Corrects Quote, Los Angeles Times, 3/16/04)
7. Boston Globe Reporter Corrected His Report Of Kerrys Wording. The Boston Globe reporter who was covering a Florida fundraiser for Kerry on March 8 wrote in a pool report, which was distributed to the rest of the press corps, that Kerry said he had spoken with foreign leaders who had indicated they want him to beat Bush. But on Monday, the reporter said that, upon review of his tape, he realized that Kerry had in fact said more leaders want him to beat Bush.
(Matea Gold, Kerry Pushed On Claim As Reporter Corrects Quote, Los Angeles Times, 3/16/04)
9. Now Kerry rejects all foreign leader endorsements.
*Note I added the first couple links to the news reports, but I'm sure you can Google the rest by the title of the report.
it's clear to me we shouldn't be debating this, for it's none of our business.
yeah, i'd say with that jackass statement, he pretty much is Dean by any other name, with the "now you sit down; you've had your turn to speak".
at least bush has the sense to sic karl rove on folks.
yeah, i'd say with that jackass statement, he pretty much is Dean by any other name, with the "now you sit down; you've had your turn to speak".
at least bush has the sense to sic karl rove on folks.
When "unnamed" foriegn leaders step forward, then Kerry rejects their endorsement.
Of course, every anti-US leader wants Kerry in the White House because they know he will be a weak, leadershipless, president who will bend where ever the public opinion wind blow him... just like the kind of senator he's been. Just check his record.
Of course, every anti-US leader wants Kerry in the White House because they know he will be a weak, leadershipless, president who will bend where ever the public opinion wind blow him... just like the kind of senator he's been. Just check his record.
God forbid a president listen to public opinion
Public opinion? So - in a "NUTshell"...you want the President of the United States to cower to the Public opinion of OTHER Nations??
John Kerry is a waffling fool.
- He was wearing these "endorsements" as a badge.
- When questioned he claimed it was his own private information (hello - he's a PUBLIC servant)
- Now his official stance is that he won't accept the endorsements.
Can you not see the ridiculous waffling here?
John Kerry is a waffling fool.
- He was wearing these "endorsements" as a badge.
- When questioned he claimed it was his own private information (hello - he's a PUBLIC servant)
- Now his official stance is that he won't accept the endorsements.
Can you not see the ridiculous waffling here?
Gee.. and all you had to do was read my post above:
Yeah... convient eh... to have the reporter clarify himself AFTER Kerry was bragging for over a week he had INDEED been endorsed by foriegn leaders....
However Kerry is quoted as saying:
Ive met foreign leaders who cant go out and say this publicly, but boy they look at you and say, Youve got to win this, youve got to beat this guy, we need a new policy, things like that, [Kerry] said.
(Patricia Wilson, Kerry Predicts Character Attacks, Foreign Support, Reuters, 3/8/04)
I can see where 'more' could possibly be confused with 'met'... especially when the entire quote is read... not.
Nah.... not doing it... having too much fun like it is.
Originally posted by N8
Nah.... not doing it... having too much fun like it is.
am actually starting fo question what kind of fetishes does GWB grow on you....
with all that crazy crap you see people doing on the news or springer, i guess nothing can astonish me anymore.
Humm... Peru eh..?
Not even a minor world player.
Originally posted by N8
Humm... Peru eh..?
Not even a minor world player.
doesnt matter.
the spectrum of your personal power of decision is probably waaaaaaaay smaller than mine in a number-of-people affected scale anyway.
unless you voted in florida in 2000.