I don't spend much time on my DH bike but I don't see what the big deal is with rear braking forces. Fork dive seems to affect the handling and controllability of a bike much more than anything the rear end does.
floating brake
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I'm glad you have a succesful product and believe in your product. But you could fill a convention center in vegas with bike companies that make similar claims....ska todd said:
And every designer gives "heavy consideration"to the braking forces when designing a frame. And in doing so, invariably makes a decision on what to do with them, based in part on his theories, beliefs, experience and preferences. As we see by the diversity in the marketplace, not everyone has the same vision (yeah!).
You would not be the first, and I'm sure not the last, to decide, with out so much as a test, that a floating brake may not be beneficial to your bike.
But a simple test may reveal some beneficial aspect that wasn't anticipated, or some negative trait that wasn't anticipated.
In any case, our preference is to work with all manufacturers regarding rod attachment and floater geometry, so they understand what's going on, and can offer the information to their customers if desired.
Brian
No I haven't, but I hear great things about them. If you're asking why I've decided a floater would work on that bike before I've ridden it, it's a simple matter of the physics involved, and my design preferences relating to those.gnurider1080 said:
I prefer no brake interaction with the rear suspension. Again, I would say most of our customers agree with that philososphy, as they seem very happy with their purchases.
It may be possible that this suspension design is superior, but in no way should that mean that it can't be improved.
think you're letting a little bit of nostalgia get to you there, DH2s only had 5.5 inches of travel (and a lovely Fastrax shock)- seb said:
the use of a floater (properly tuned) can help reduce dive. The floater allows for a more controlled squatting which helps level the bike. Single pivots without floaters will also squat, but that effect gets negated when the bike breaks traction and causes the suspension to unload (that causes the perception of jacking and chatter). Basically if you stabilize the rear, you'll stabilize the front.Westy said:
On a bike like mine with a really high pivot, alot of squat can be produced and controlled, so the bike essentially brakes neutral.
of course thats fair, but they implied an outright nullification since they claim they can't be 100% certain it didnt play a role. Now if a floater bolted near the BB caused a headtube failiure, i'd be more concerned about the overall design in general.....or the black magic properties of Therapy components....OGRipper said:
Put a 2.75" stroke (IIRC) Risse Jupiter 5 shock on though and I had over 7.5" of travel. I don't really know how much my GT has, 8-8.5" at a guess, so it's not a million miles away.scottishmark said:
Wasn't perfect though, made my BB a bit high:
http://www.sebfrost.co.uk/bikes/dh2/
I likes mine. very happy.
