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For those who claim racism is dead

Discussion in 'Politics & World News' started by johnbryanpeters, Jul 5, 2012.

  1. johnbryanpeters

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  2. X3pilot

    X3pilot Texans fan - LOL

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    Sadly, racism will never die, not in this country or others. Same with hatred of another's religion, nationality or viewpoints.

    We may never all just get along.
     
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  3. johnbryanpeters

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    I'm inclined to believe that it's wired in. A pertinent question would be whether language/culture could sustainably override the behavior. It seems that if it's attempted, the politically correct label starts to get parroted.
     
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  4. Pesqueeb

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    In the southwest its called "defending America's sovereignty".
     
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  5. jimmydean

    jimmydean The Official Meat of Ridemonkey

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    Is it considered racism if it is coincidence that they all happen to be brown in the Southwest?
     
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    sanjuro Tube Smuggler

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    My turn.

    One time at the bike shop, I was giving flack to a drunk guy who trying to hustle a free flat fix and had very likely stolen the bike he rode up on.

    He turned to me and said, "You f---ing chink!"

    I was a little surprised in an amused way. I hadn't been called a chink by a stranger since I was a teenager. I certainly wasn't going to be upset by a drunken bum, and several of my larger and violent friends at the shop chased him away.

    I was never personally offended or saddened at the state of society. I didn't care what an idiot thought of me or my race. It was beneath me.

    Why was Kenny Wiley, the writer of this post, troubled over this incident? That a couple of drunken kids made a stupid crack that happened to be racist? Would he have written about this if they had yelled, "Hey Forrest Gump" or just "Stop running on the sidewalk like an asshole?"

    Now here is the tricky part: why is Mr. Wiley so mad about being jokingly accused of running from the cops and stealing something? Is it because he has taken this incident with four drunk kids and extrapolated that our society is racist.

    Or is it because an extremely successful black man can be knocked down a peg by with a spontaneous comment about being a thief?

    In my own twisted view, it is hilarious that a self-proclaimed Harvard grad student who is almost guaranteed to reach the pinnacles of our society is stopped in his tracks and profoundly upset by drunk teenagers.

    Ultimately, we as a society have to move past racial comments, and the first step is to treat them as asinine insults, not some deeply troubling commentary.

    FYI, in that situation, I would said, "Why am I running? I'm going to my job. You try working too instead of being an asshole" or if I was out of breath, "Go f--- yourself"
     
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  7. stevew

    stevew unique white person

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    60/40 chance he hates gays....
     
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  8. sanjuro

    sanjuro Tube Smuggler

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    Actually, I believe racism does exist, specifically how teabaggers view the President and police stop-n-frisk programs.

    But writing about incidents like this are just distractions.
     
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  9. johnbryanpeters

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    Interesting point of view.
     
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    tl;dr?

     
  11. stevew

    stevew unique white person

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    missed that...

    but then again...

    it's the internet....

    it's facebook.....

    can't really subject it to snopes...

    if it were a chain email...should i believe it?
     
  12. $tinkle

    $tinkle Expert on blowing

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    of course racism isn't dead.

    b/c they were white ppl yelling at him, he decided to fb the event.

    it's not interesting if it were his racial peers saying the same thing.
     
  13. $tinkle

    $tinkle Expert on blowing

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    from the fb comments:



    #whiteGuilt
     
  14. AngryMetalsmith

    AngryMetalsmith Business is good, thanks for asking

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    $tinkle Expert on blowing

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    hold on, girl -- was this in MASSACHUSETTS?

    maybe a local disinterested native american third party representative should arbitrate:



    maybe pass the peace pipe around a few times
     
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    $tinkle Expert on blowing

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  17. jimmydean

    jimmydean The Official Meat of Ridemonkey

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    Haven't you seen The Passion, he looked like Mel Gibson! (I haven't)
     
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    While I firmly believe that racism exists what this guy is going on about is seems a bit overblown.He seems more interested in letting it be known he attends Harvard and therefore shouldn't be subjected to ignorance.
     
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    I have some Texas friends. I think he was raised too polite to respond to this kind of thing.

    Do you think a guy from Brooklyn would have cried like he did?
     
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    $tinkle Expert on blowing

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    $tinkle Expert on blowing

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    bureau of labor statistics
    in recent memory, obama has been the most economically damaging toward blacks.

    but it's not racist.



    is it?
     
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    jimmydean The Official Meat of Ridemonkey

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    You can lead a man to a job, but you can't make him work. Or something like that.

    <edit> I think the promise was "job creation" not "job creation for blacks, mostly".
     
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    dan-o Turbo Monkey

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    Lincoln (R - Illinois) was by far the most damaging.
    The black unemployment rate skyrocketed after the Emancipation Proclamation.
     
  24. Serial Midget

    Serial Midget Al Bundy

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    As my grammy used to say: you can lead a whore to the library but you can't make her think.


     
  25. $tinkle

    $tinkle Expert on blowing

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    that's pretty ironic, considering she'd take her teeth out at night