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Fork..Forks...or Dorks

Inkhell

Chimp
Jul 15, 2002
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A thread below brought up a question I've never really been able to answer.

Why do people refer to a fork as “forks” or Monsters, Sliders, and Boxxers? Let's examine the word fork...you must have at least 3 intersecting lines to have a "fork". So unless you have 4 lowers and 2 steer tubes, you must have a "Shiver" and not "Shivers" on your pimped ride. The problem seems to be more rampant on Pink Bike so maybe it's a Canadian thing or is it a young not knowing any better thing. Am I missing something here?
:confused:
 

COmtbiker12

Turbo Monkey
Dec 17, 2003
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Colorado Springs
Originally posted by Inkhell
A thread below brought up a question I've never really been able to answer.

Why do people refer to a fork as “forks” or Monsters, Sliders, and Boxxers? Let's examine the word fork...you must have at least 3 intersecting lines to have a "fork". So unless you have 4 lowers and 2 steer tubes, you must have a "Shiver" and not "Shivers" on your pimped ride. The problem seems to be more rampant on Pink Bike so maybe it's a Canadian thing or is it a young not knowing any better thing. Am I missing something here?
:confused:
I think its a non american thing for sure. But I bet we're the ones who are weird considering the rest of the world is on the metric system and all that stuff, and considering we're the only ones trying to conquer the world. ;)
 

MikeD

Leader and Demogogue of the Ridemonkey Satinists
Oct 26, 2001
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Well, it gets worse when in referring to one fork, they use the term "a PAIR of [shivers, dorados, etc.]"

But it's just convention, and while it does defy logic, it's still language, and gets the point across in common usage. Just sounds wierd to those of us not accustomed to the term.

Edit: It's common usage in Commonwealth-English countries, by the way...and anywhere that English speakers learn Commonwealth vice American English. Chances are if you spell "colour" and "honour," you have "forks" on your bike.

It's still not as bad as calling a dual-crown fork a "triple clamp," in any case.

MD
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
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Originally posted by MikeD


It's still not as bad as calling a dual-crown fork a "triple clamp," in any case.

MD
That is the corret MX term for it.

"double triple crown" is where it starts getting confusing and misleading.
 

MikeD

Leader and Demogogue of the Ridemonkey Satinists
Oct 26, 2001
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Originally posted by Jm_
That is the corret MX term for it.

"double triple crown" is where it starts getting confusing and misleading.
Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought a triple clamp was the part of a moto fork that clamps together both stanchions and the steerer tube...a crown, in other words...and any bicycle fork has at least one crown.

i.e., a traditional bicycle fork has one triple clamp/crown, and a moto/DH style fork has two, thus making it a dual-crown fork. But saying a "triple clamp" fork doesn't really mean anything, as all forks save the lefty or other unconventional designs have a triple clamp.

MD
 

MikeD

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Oct 26, 2001
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I'd say, "I really love that shiver" if referring to one specific Shiver that I had on my bike or at least in my presence...if I was referring to the entire line of Shiver forks as a whole, I'd say "I love Shivers" or "I love those Shivers" if I was feeling colloquial/southern.

MD
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
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Originally posted by MikeD
Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought a triple clamp was the part of a moto fork that clamps together both stanchions and the steerer tube...a crown, in other words...and any bicycle fork has at least one crown.

i.e., a traditional bicycle fork has one triple clamp/crown, and a moto/DH style fork has two, thus making it a dual-crown fork. But saying a "triple clamp" fork doesn't really mean anything, as all forks save the lefty or other unconventional designs have a triple clamp.

MD
Yup, but the contex of MX forks is that there are no single crowns, so "triple clamp forks" refer to the only fork they know.
 

Ifelloffabike

Monkey
Apr 14, 2003
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Originally posted by zedro
its not a misuse. For example, you would say "i really love those Shivers", not "i really love those Shiver". Its just a question of possession.
except most of the time it is more like "hey check out the new forks i just put on my bike" or "i broke my forks today, this pos sucks"
 

Bonk

Mike Bloss, Hero
*B!tch slaps everyone!* :devil: :devil: :devil: It's singular damnit! Do you eat with "forks"? ...well...maybe if you're some double fisted eater...

A fork consists of two legs...
If you were to call it "forks" and you take one of the legs away, do you have a "fork" then? NO!!! You have an upper and a lower composing a "leg" of a fork.

That's just the way it is! If you don't like it you can fork yourself! :devil:
 

MikeD

Leader and Demogogue of the Ridemonkey Satinists
Oct 26, 2001
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Originally posted by Jm_
Yup, but the contex of MX forks is that there are no single crowns, so "triple clamp forks" refer to the only fork they know.
Right, but I never heard a motorcyclist talk about a triple-clamp fork at all. I've only heard them call it a fork, plain and simple-like you said, there's only one kind. (except when discussing the bizarre Marzocchi singlecrown fork, of course).
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
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Originally posted by MikeD
Right, but I never heard a motorcyclist talk about a triple-clamp fork at all. I've only heard them call it a fork, plain and simple-like you said, there's only one kind. (except when discussing the bizarre Marzocchi singlecrown fork, of course).
Really? I was watching a program two days ago where they were doing a factory-works upgrade to the suspension, they refered to the forks as "triple clamps".
 

MikeD

Leader and Demogogue of the Ridemonkey Satinists
Oct 26, 2001
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I think we have answered the question, anyhow, and regrettably, the answer is "dorks."
 

Mudpuppy

Monkey
Oct 20, 2001
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Originally posted by Inkhell
Why do people refer to a fork as “forks” or Monsters, Sliders, and Boxxers?
It's the same reason we have "pants" and not "a pant." Personally I call it "a fork" but I can see the logic the other way. Two legs=forks.;)
 

SebringMGB

Monkey
Feb 6, 2004
482
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Washington
its a simple answer. anyone can prove it for you, all you gotta do is ask..... next time you are having dinner with someone (anyone will do) ask them to "pass you those forks" see what ends up in your hand:rolleyes:
 

ChrisRobin

Turbo Monkey
Jan 30, 2002
3,403
212
Vancouver
Originally posted by Inkhell
The problem seems to be more rampant on Pink Bike so maybe it's a Canadian thing or is it a young not knowing any better thing. Am I missing something here?
:confused:
It's a Canadian westcoast thing. I never heard any local eastern people say shivers, or boxxers...etc. I also think it's a UK think too.
 

zedro

Turbo Monkey
Sep 14, 2001
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Originally posted by ChrisRobin
It's a Canadian westcoast thing. I never heard any local eastern people say shivers, or boxxers...etc. I also think it's a UK think too.
what are you doing up? watching reruns of the Habs loosing on RDS?

PS...update your sig...:p
 

ChrisRobin

Turbo Monkey
Jan 30, 2002
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Originally posted by zedro
what are you doing up? watching reruns of the Habs loosing on RDS?

PS...update your sig...:p
I did some extra hours at work....as for my sig: oops! thanks for reminding me.
 

SebringMGB

Monkey
Feb 6, 2004
482
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Washington
i was cleaning my fork today, and read a sticker that has forced me to revive this thread......

if you own a marzocchi fork

read the orange and white sticker on the bottom of the leg.....

......improper use of these forks may result........


wtf??? anyone wat a used 04 super-t?

:D