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Turbo Monkey
Feb 28, 2005
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So... I'm not sure if anyone picked up on this pic from dirtmag's coverage of Ft. Bill, but I heard that the dude standing in the background is actually Minnaar... there's no way that's possible, but if it's true that's phucking HILARIOUS.

:biggrin:

Looks like the Syndicate Triumvirate knows how to have a good time and loosen up at the races. Didn't Peaty "buzz" the back of Minnaar's head with someone's bike after he passed out at a bar?

Hilarious... :biggrin:



EDIT: Congrats to Rennie!
 
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rockwool

Turbo Monkey
Apr 19, 2004
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I thought Gee was gonna take it after I saw him jump and he pumped the landing with such power (somebody in the commentary booth shouted double pump simultanioulsy), watching Minnaar he wasn't close to that powerful in that landing. STOKED!!

Thanks Freecateeeeeeeeeeeer!!!
 

stiksandstones

Turbo Monkey
May 21, 2002
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i don't think he is tops at pedaling. he'll have some more wins on other courses.

Sam has proven that old BS notion that he can NOT pedal wrong many times before. There is no such thing as a course that does NOT suit him. He is just getting beat, nothing more, nothing less.

But you can bet the worlds he will be on his game like he never has been before.
 

SuboptimusPrime

Turbo Monkey
Aug 18, 2005
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Man this season is going good I thought it was gonna be a Sam Hill steam roller of a season, with Gee close behind but so far it's not it's been real good.
Agreed...as amazing as Sam is, I was getting tired of him crushing everyone and I like Peaty way better. I'm hoping Steve can win one this year and tie Nico's record.
 

General Lee

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Oct 16, 2003
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So... I'm not sure if anyone picked up on this pic from dirtmag's coverage of Ft. Bill, but I heard that the dude standing in the background is actually Minnaar... there's no way that's possible, but if it's true that's phucking HILARIOUS.

:biggrin:

Looks like the Syndicate Triumvirate knows how to have a good time and loosen up at the races. Didn't Peaty "buzz" the back of Minnaar's head with someone's bike after he passed out at a bar?

Hilarious... :biggrin:



EDIT: Congrats to Rennie!

Yup, that's minnaar. he rode around in it a few times after dh practice. apparently the borat suit almost made a run down the dh course too.

from what i've been told he loved the support of the Honda program but the super professional atmosphere kept him from having as much fun as he'd have liked.

big weekend for Syndicate
 

LMC

Monkey
Dec 10, 2006
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And nessesary, that **** must not be alowed to be shown without sheit being thrown at it. Glad they went poo competitvely.
not really, the mojo riders did place well considering their usual results.

Tracey smoked the rest of the women!
 

rockwool

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Apr 19, 2004
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So... I'm not sure if anyone picked up on this pic from dirtmag's coverage of Ft. Bill, but I heard that the dude standing in the background is actually Minnaar... there's no way that's possible, but if it's true that's phucking HILARIOUS.

:biggrin:

Looks like the Syndicate Triumvirate knows how to have a good time and loosen up at the races. Didn't Peaty "buzz" the back of Minnaar's head with someone's bike after he passed out at a bar?

Hilarious... :biggrin:



EDIT: Congrats to Rennie!
Hah, sure looks like Minnaar to me. :D
 

General Lee

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Oct 16, 2003
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Sam has proven that old BS notion that he can NOT pedal wrong many times before. There is no such thing as a course that does NOT suit him. He is just getting beat, nothing more, nothing less.

But you can bet the worlds he will be on his game like he never has been before.

agreed, it's not that he can't pedal so much as it simply does not play to his strengths. He doesn't lose becasue of pedaling, he just doesn't have as many opportunities to take time out of the rest of the field the way he can on some other tracks.

And he's won ft. william 2 years running so you won't find him making excuses.
 

stiksandstones

Turbo Monkey
May 21, 2002
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I love how everyone thinks 'skinsuits are not good for our image'

But they don't mind cussing like sailors while live on the internet.

If you don't want to wear a skinsuit, don't....get over it.

There are 100 other marquee issues at hand in increasing exposure for MTB racing than worrying about attire.
 

donkeyWC

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May 5, 2007
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agreed, it's not that he can't pedal so much as it simply does not play to his strengths. He doesn't lose becasue of pedaling, he just doesn't have as many opportunities to take time out of the rest of the field the way he can on some other tracks.

And he's won ft. william 2 years running so you won't find him making excuses.
maybe he should have worn the skinsuit again? ;)
 

FlipFantasia

Turbo Monkey
Oct 4, 2001
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great way to spend a rainy sunday morning on the wet coast! the girl even made me some sweetass fresh fruit pancakes while I watched! yeah! awesome to see rennie stormin', skinsuits definitely deserved to be made fun of......sam, well, it's been relatively dry and the courses not super gnarly yet......still early in the season though! love that it's all up in the air this year though
 

LMC

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Dec 10, 2006
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1 27 MINNAAR Greg RSA SANTA CRUZ SYNDICATE 4:43.52
2 4 ATHERTON Gee GBR ANIMAL COMMENCAL 4:46.69
3 3 PEAT Steve GBR SANTA CRUZ SYNDICATE 4:47.42
4 13 RENNIE Nathan AUS SANTA CRUZ SYNDICATE 4:48.19
5 1 HILL Samuel AUS MONSTER ENERGY / IRON HORSE 4:48.70
6 48 CATHRO Ben GBR MOJO ORANGE 4:49.08
7 18 ATHERTON Dan GBR ANIMAL COMMENCAL 4:49.76
8 23 LEOV Justin NZL YETI FOX SHOX FACTORY RACE TEAM 4:52.38
9 25 BLENKINSOP Samuel NZL YETI FOX SHOX FACTORY RACE TEAM 4:52.97
10 11 PASCAL Mickael FRA MSC BIKES 4:53.87
11 16 PAYET Florent FRA SUBARU MOUNTAIN BIKE PRO TEAM 4:55.15
12 111 CAMELLINI Julien FRA CHAIN REACTION CYCLES/INTENSE 4:55.40
13 38 KOVARIK Chris AUS CHAIN REACTION CYCLES/INTENSE 4:55.65
14 5 BEAUMONT Marc GBR TEAM BIKE RADAR 4:56.23
15 66 GRACIA Cédric FRA COMMENCAL - FURIOUS - OAKLEY TEAM 4:56.29
16 15 BRYCELAND Josh ° GBR SANTA CRUZ SYNDICATE 4:57.13
17 98 HUTCHENS Chris GBR MOJO ORANGE 4:57.18
18 22 CANALS FLIX Pasqual ESP MASSI 4:57.22
19 21 GUARDIA PASCUAL Bernat ESP MSC BIKES 4:57.64
20 35 OULEGO MORENO Ivan ESP MASSI 4:58.06
21 74 ATKINSON Bryn AUS GT BICYCLES / MONGOOSE BICYCLES 4:58.16
22 14 PEDEMANAUD Fabien FRA TEAM PYRENEES MOREWOOD 4:58.80
23 12 FAIRCLOUGH Brendan GBR MONSTER ENERGY / IRON HORSE 4:58.89
24 26 POLC Filip SVK KENDA TOMAC 4:59.02
25 39 DONOGHUE Neil GBR TEAM BIKE RADAR 5:00.28
26 9 VAZQUEZ LOPEZ David ESP LAPIERRE DH POWERED BY SAAB SALOMON 5:01.26
27 68 DELFS Mitchell AUS KENDA TOMAC 5:01.63
28 20 NEETHLING Andrew RSA GT BICYCLES / MONGOOSE BICYCLES 5:01.67
29 121 DALE Sam ° GBR CANNONDALE FACTORY RACING 5:01.82
30 47 SAIZ CASTANE Oscar ESP GIANT MOUNTAIN BIKE TEAM 5:02.37
31 106 STRAIT Kyle USA SPECIALIZED FACTORY RACING 5:02.45
32 125 BUTTON Joshua AUS --- 5:02.65
33 44 SIMMONDS Matthew GBR CHAIN REACTION CYCLES/INTENSE 5:03.20
34 45 STANBRIDGE Dan GBR MOJO ORANGE 5:03.55
35 107 HART Danny ° GBR LAPIERRE DH POWERED BY SAAB SALOMON 5:03.85
36 33 RUFFIN Thibaut FRA --- 5:04.68
37 31 GSPAN Dominik SUI --- 5:04.98
38 30 BEGGIN Alan ITA --- 5:06.58
39 40 ZBINDEN Samuel SUI ARGENTINA BIKE GRAVITY TEAM 5:07.57
40 57 PEKOLL Markus AUT SOLID ACLASS FACTORY TEAM 5:07.72
41 131 CRITCHLOW Daniel GBR CHAIN REACTION CYCLES/INTENSE 5:08.21
42 79 TROQUIER Mathieu FRA SOLID ACLASS FACTORY TEAM 5:08.34
43 118 JUILLARD Valentin ° FRA TEAM SUNN 5:08.82
44 101 SMITH Joseph ° GBR TOMAC FACTORY RACING 5:09.09
45 80 BEER Marcel SUI IXS SPORTS DIVISION RACING TEAM 5:09.88
46 200 BARRETT Aari ° NZL --- 5:10.03
47 194 STERNBERG Lars USA --- 5:10.16
48 114 FERREIRO PAJUELO Antonio ° ESP MASSI 5:10.35
49 70 CUNNINGHAM Ruaridh GBR CHAIN REACTION CYCLES/INTENSE 5:10.72
50 155 MACDONALD Brook ° NZL --- 5:10.75
51 49 CALUORI Claudio SUI TOMAC FACTORY RACING 5:10.94
52 72 DEACON Tom GBR --- 5:11.07
53 142 GEOGHEGAN Jack ° GBR --- 5:11.07
54 108 MITCHELL Andrew CAN --- 5:11.34
55 143 DANH PHA Kévin FRA TEAM PYRENEES MOREWOOD 5:11.91
56 124 RISCHBIETH Will AUS --- 5:11.94
57 186 INESON Ben ° GBR REVERSE COMPONENTS 5:12.10
58 117 DELENTE Arnaud ° FRA --- 5:12.25
59 53 CAVALIER Amiel AUS GIANT MOUNTAIN BIKE TEAM 5:12.34
60 51 JOHNSEN Espen NOR --- 5:13.32
61 97 MEARS Scott GBR --- 5:13.65
62 56 COLE Cameron NZL TEAM MAXXIS 5:14.10
63 150 JENKINSON Stuart GBR PRINTEXPRESS UK MTB TEAM 5:14.92
64 36 BENNETT Kieran NZL --- 5:18.13
65 96 BARNES Joe GBR --- 5:18.42
66 113 BUGNONE Marco ITA --- 5:25.84
67 37 OLUND Herman SWE --- 5:26.20
68 60 RANDO Jared AUS GIANT MOUNTAIN BIKE TEAM 5:39.58
69 24 KLAUSMANN Marcus GER TEAM GHOST INTERNATIONAL 5:42.10
70 29 SPAGNOLO Damien FRA SUBARU MOUNTAIN BIKE PRO TEAM 6:16.14
71 99 SORRELL Rowan GBR --- 6:17.74
72 163 DERTELL dennis ° SWE --- 6:26.45
73 8 BAREL Fabien FRA SUBARU MOUNTAIN BIKE PRO TEAM 6:40.76
74 197 KURTZ Cyrille FRA --- 6:50.20
75 67 MASTERS Wyn NZL --- 10:00.24
76 103 ASHBRIDGE Philip GBR --- 10:18.47
77 205 VAGNER Adam CZE --- 51:06.73
78 17 REID Ben IRL --- DEF
79 94 WARREN Cody USA --- DNF
80 55 BANGERT Cole USA --- DNS
81 61 SIEBER Andreas GER SOLID ACLASS FACTORY TEAM DNS
 

donkeyWC

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May 5, 2007
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I love how everyone thinks 'skinsuits are not good for our image'

But they don't mind cussing like sailors while live on the internet.

If you don't want to wear a skinsuit, don't....get over it.

There are 100 other marquee issues at hand in increasing exposure for MTB racing than worrying about attire.
i didn't appreciate the crass commentary, and especially during the womens races. i'd rock a skinsuit if it meant winning. of course i'm not wc caliber so my opinions don't carry much weight.
 

rockwool

Turbo Monkey
Apr 19, 2004
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I love how everyone thinks 'skinsuits are not good for our image'

But they don't mind cussing like sailors while live on the internet.

If you don't want to wear a skinsuit, don't....get over it.

There are 100 other marquee issues at hand in increasing exposure for MTB racing than worrying about attire.
Ooh come on, those are brotherly hugs. You're comming out like that Aussie commedian that says "toughen the fvck up Australia"...
 

LMC

Monkey
Dec 10, 2006
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I love how everyone thinks 'skinsuits are not good for our image'

But they don't mind cussing like sailors while live on the internet.

If you don't want to wear a skinsuit, don't....get over it.

There are 100 other marquee issues at hand in increasing exposure for MTB racing than worrying about attire.
I know.. really! what was up with that idiot in the middle of the mens race shouting about swiss women and shaved c**ts. Nice one, im sure his sponsors were delighted.

i applaud Chris Porters decision to make his team run skinsuits, hes bound to have known the flak he would take from it.. whether his riders liked the decision or not is not Rob Warners business to be discussing live to the viewers.
 

SuspectDevice

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Aug 23, 2002
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The frat-ish commentating by Warner, and Especially Gracia is simultaneously amusing, but mostly just embarrassing. It's certainly not something I'd want to show an investor, for example.

They are capable of not-acting like goons, but I'd really rather see Peter Graves. Graves is mountainbike racing.

And on that note, Downhill is bicycle racing. All of the little Palmer wannabees should go twist throttles if they don't like Skinsuits....
 

stiksandstones

Turbo Monkey
May 21, 2002
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I know.. really! what was up with that idiot in the middle of the mens race shouting about swiss women and shaved c**ts. Nice one, im sure his sponsors were delighted.

i applaud Chris Porters decision to make his team run skinsuits, hes bound to have known the flak he would take from it.. whether his riders liked the decision or not is not Rob Warners business to be discussing live to the viewers.
Lets put it this way, a friend of mine who follows the sport in pieces, did not know who the Mojo team was until today.
 

LMC

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Dec 10, 2006
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The frat-ish commentating by Warner, and Especially Gracia is simultaneously amusing, but mostly just embarrassing. It's certainly not something I'd want to show an investor, for example.

They are capable of not-acting like goons, but I'd really rather see Peter Graves. Graves is mountainbike racing.

And on that note, Downhill is bicycle racing. All of the little Palmer wannabees should go twist throttles if they don't like Skinsuits....
agreed, funny yes, but in places unprofessional.

ive seen pics of palmer wearing a black skinsuit too.

in my opinion the mojo suits looked decent, im not so sure about the design on Traceys tho.
 

LMC

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Dec 10, 2006
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edit: i posted the rankings but i dont think theyve been updated on the UCI site after this race
 
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rockwool

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Lets put it this way, a friend of mine who follows the sport in pieces, did not know who the Mojo team was until today.
Good marketing, sure. But a step back for the sport and especially for those who compete in it. If all racers wear them it won't be to the advantage of anyone. And if all don't, then it won't be to the dissadvantage to anybody. Let them be 'til Worlds, they look ridiculous and sponsors might back of because of them.
 

stiksandstones

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May 21, 2002
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Good marketing, sure. But a step back for the sport and especially for those who compete in it. If all racers wear them it won't be to the advantage of anyone. And if all don't, then it won't be to the dissadvantage to anybody. Let them be 'til Worlds, they look ridiculous and sponsors might back of because of them.
Ya, because the sponsors were/are just POURING in with everyone wearing motogear.
Don't be ridiculous. If you can find me one corporate guy, just ONE that says they almost had a big deal with DHing but backed out last minute because they saw a skinsuit wearing rider, I would be surprised-if not knowing you made it up.

Also funny to note that most 'skin suit wearing fa_ _ ots' from the mid 90's were making more money than the highest paid riders of today.
 

rockwool

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Ya, because the sponsors were/are just POURING in with everyone wearing motogear.
Don't be ridiculous. If you can find me one corporate guy, just ONE that says they almost had a big deal with DHing but backed out last minute because they saw a skinsuit wearing rider, I would be surprised-if not knowing you made it up.
What would you be thinking if you were looking to sponsor something in extreme sports and saw the suits; yeah, those condoms are just as cool as things our company wants to be assosiated with. I don't think so.

Sponsors left long time ago, skinsuits won't bring them back. Widening this sport to become quite popular as all the freeride kids grow up might. Don't kill it once again with those condoms, nobody's going to want to be assosiated with that and the kids will continue to huckflip only.
 

aj-monkey

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Oct 11, 2007
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Also funny to note that most 'skin suit wearing fa_ _ ots' from the mid 90's were making more money than the highest paid riders of today.[/QUOTE]

That has nothing to do with the fact that they we're wearing skinsuits and visorless helmets! Which leads me to question. If Mojo was so worried about aerodynamics, then why on earth didn't they take their visors off. Seems a little ridiculous not to, especially in that wind.
 

LMC

Monkey
Dec 10, 2006
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Good marketing, sure. But a step back for the sport and especially for those who compete in it. If all racers wear them it won't be to the advantage of anyone. And if all don't, then it won't be to the dissadvantage to anybody. Let them be 'til Worlds, they look ridiculous and sponsors might back of because of them.
how are faster times a step backward?

sponsors are likely to be happy with their logos not flapping about in the wind! as well as a more professional attitude towards racing shown by the rider/team

Team MOJO, Team Suspension Center and Tracey selected the correct tool to get the job done, given the course conditions.

How about banning some of the less aesthetically pleasing MX gear. (steve smith springs to mind)
Why stop there, what say we start to ban deemax wheels because they clash with the kits/bikes??
 

trust4130

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Aug 16, 2005
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Ya, because the sponsors were/are just POURING in with everyone wearing motogear.
Don't be ridiculous. If you can find me one corporate guy, just ONE that says they almost had a big deal with DHing but backed out last minute because they saw a skinsuit wearing rider, I would be surprised-if not knowing you made it up.!
But I'd bet that the opposite could be true as well. Everyone could rock the c@cksuit and there still would likely be no corporate sponsors pouring in. I'd doubt that it would make a huge difference, but my guess (and I know that's all it is) would be that smaller "image" consious type companies would sooner be associated with the moto image that the skinsuit. Now, for bigger sponsors (which the sport could use more of) perhaps it doesn't matter. Regardless, the riders seem to prefer to no don the suit...

I'm just stoked to be able to see this stuff live. Awesome job freecaster!
 
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aj-monkey

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Oct 11, 2007
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What would you be thinking if you were looking to sponsor something in extreme sports and saw the suits; yeah, those condoms are just as cool as things our company wants to be assosiated with. I don't think so.

Sponsors left long time ago, skinsuits won't bring them back. Widening this sport to become quite popular as all the freeride kids grow up might. Don't kill it once again with those condoms, nobody's going to want to be assosiated with that and the kids will continue to huckflip only.
I'm with you on that! Spot on!
 

stiksandstones

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May 21, 2002
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What would you be thinking if you were looking to sponsor something in extreme sports and saw the suits; yeah, those condoms are just as cool as things our company wants to be assosiated with. I don't think so.

Sponsors left long time ago, skinsuits won't bring them back. Widening this sport to become quite popular as all the freeride kids grow up might. Don't kill it once again with those condoms, nobody's going to want to be assosiated with that and the kids will continue to huckflip only.
-You said 'extreme sports', 1997 called and wants their term back.

-There are plenty of kids out there that want to be elite racers and would wear whatever the neccesary gear is. I think there is a kid or 2 that ski race.

-Someone posted a thread in here of a fontucky podium session, not a skinsuit in there but it was the most ridiculous looking series of gear I have EVER seen.

I do not care what people wear, point is if someone wants to wear one-more power to them and the endless bashing about it grows old quickly. These mojo guys did well with them, they did not look horrible, it brought chatter in on if it helps speed, etc and this is always good discussion (how to go faster....not just sick hucks).
Dont want this to turn into another gay fashion thread.....so, YAY SYNDICATE ;)