[jonKranked]

Check it. Nevermind the decals. New 20mm axle config. Potentially useless air bleed ports. Giveaway is the compression knob. It's roughly the same diameter as the stanchions on the 36, but here it's slightly smaller then the stanchion. Also, Matty posted the photos in a folder called fox-38. Plus him and Ritchie go way back

Spotted: New Fox 36 (38?) - EWS Zermatt 2019 - Pinkbike

Richie Rude is running a fresh fork for the final Enduro World Series race of the season.

m.pinkbike.com

 

[rideit]

QBP just started carrying Fox forks, shocks, seatposts, etc...hell yeah!

 

[chris_f]

I want one, but I'd rather just stick some Avalanche magic in the 36 I got for the time being.

 

[jonKranked]

I want one, but I'd rather just stick some Avalanche magic in the 36 I got for the time being.

This is a new chassis, not damper.

 

[chris_f]

This is a new chassis, not damper.

I'm well aware of that, but the 36 I got is the OEM Performance/elite 2015 version. So if I'm upgrading, a new cartridge is more realistic on my budget even if the new chassis and Factory internals are much nicer than what I've got.

I do wonder what travel increments this new fork will come in though.

 

[jonKranked]

I do wonder what travel increments this new fork will come in though.

I'd wager up to 180

 

[jonKranked]

Hopefully they make a version with a coil boinger.

 

[kidwoo]

Yay!

Totem time!

 

[Jm_]

38 will help transfer more stress to the crown-steerer junction, thereby hastening the adoption of 1.8...

 

[HardtailHack]

38 will help transfer more stress to the crown-steerer junction, thereby hastening the adoption of 1.8...

Maybe it'll be a unicrown like X Fusion stuff.
Or at least they could go with ano instead of paint so the headset bearing seat sits on something that's uniformly flat and non compressible.
This should have been the Z1 instead of the piece of poop that I bought, Fox shit on the Marz name when they released the Z1.

Oh, bring back the 1.5" steerer, steerers are hugely long on new slack bikes and they flex like fuck.

 

[canadmos]

"Spotted".

But these guys probably already have the press release announcement queued in their news feed.

 

[jonKranked]

38 will help transfer more stress to the crown-steerer junction, thereby hastening the adoption of 1.8...

Personally I was hoping they'd go for dual crown on the 38.

 

[kidwoo]

"Spotted".

But these guys probably already have the press release announcement queued in their news feed.

They've probably already got one in hand.

 

[jonKranked]

They've probably already got one in hand.

Wonder when the embargo lifts

 

[Jm_]

Personally I was hoping they'd go for dual crown on the 38.

Dual crown would be stiff enough and would not require a new standard. Is this your first day?

 

[jonKranked]

Dual crown would be stiff enough and would not require a new standard. Is this your first day?

Oh they'd definitely offer it with 1.8 tapered. Can't have a lizard free new product.

 

[Nick]

World Cup Downhill MTB Race Talk

I know it was the race of the season but where’s the winning bike article ? I’d be bummed if I was Saracen even with its trick floating brake arm not available to the public this is what we want to see especially since it’s only 1 of 3 bikes to...

www.vitalmtb.com

 

[ChrisRobin]

How much travel did the old Marzocchi 66 have?? That had 38mm toobs.

1.8....goddam.

 

[jonKranked]

World Cup Downhill MTB Race Talk

I know it was the race of the season but where’s the winning bike article ? I’d be bummed if I was Saracen even with its trick floating brake arm not available to the public this is what we want to see especially since it’s only 1 of 3 bikes to...

www.vitalmtb.com

Interesting that one has Fox's r&d decals on it and Richie's had 36 decals despite clearly being the same fork (at least the chassis)

 

[kidwoo]

How much travel did the old Marzocchi 66 have?? That had 38mm toobs.

1.8....goddam.

up to 180

 

[Happymtb.fr]

So Fox couldn't stand Manitou having a 37mm one and went for 38?
Meanwhile RS doesn't go bigger than 35mm even on their dual crowned forks and their single crowned forks are stiffer than 36s from Fox...

 

[sethimus]

So Fox couldn't stand Manitou having a 37mm one and went for 38?
Meanwhile RS doesn't go bigger than 35mm even on their dual crowned forks and their single crowned forks are stiffer than 36s from Fox...

 

[MmmBones]

anyone else notice the tapered "vein" on the backside of the lowers? this. It goes from where the foam ring sits and past the bleed port. Could this be some sort of oil circulator that keeps the foam ring and bushing lubed? I remember someone mentioning this was something fox was working on for their new forx. this 38 looks like an improvement over the current long travel single crown fork out now but I can't help but wonder how it would compare to a Mojo'd MORC 36 dual crown with the older dual pinch bolt 20mm axle clamps. also, fuck 1.8" that shit is bunk.

 

[Electric_City]

What's this 1.8" everyone is talking about? Source/article?

 

[Jm_]

anyone else notice the tapered "vein" on the backside of the lowers? this. It goes from where the foam ring sits and past the bleed port. Could this be some sort of oil circulator that keeps the foam ring and bushing lubed? I remember someone mentioning this was something fox was working on for their new forx. this 38 looks like an improvement over the current long travel single crown fork out now but I can't help but wonder how it would compare to a Mojo'd MORC 36 dual crown with the older dual pinch bolt 20mm axle clamps. also, fuck 1.8" that shit is bunk.

Could just be a fore-aft stiffener too.

 

[jonKranked]

What's this 1.8" everyone is talking about? Source/article?

tl;dr - some company wanted a fork with a "better aesthetic" for their e-bikes and apparently that meant a 1.8" tapered steerer, and 2 suspension companies decided to supply them at the OEM level

 

[ChrisRobin]

Well on the bright side, of this is truly the Fox 38, it's still on a Yeti that uses the tapered standard (I hope).

 

[slimshady]

Meh. The RC2 damper was and still is way superior to the GRIP2 one. A bit harder to maintain, but I'd take it any day of the week.

 

[sundaydoug]

Does anyone besides possibly Richie really need a single crown fork that's stiffer than a current 36? Those things are stiff as hell.

 

[Electric_City]

Is anyone else out there loving the fact that you can buy a good chassis cheap, like some RS and Marzoocchi stuff, put an Avy/push/whatever in it, and end up with a better than any off the shelf suspension product? I am!

 

[kidwoo]

Does anyone besides possibly Richie really need a single crown fork that's stiffer than a current 36?

Yes

Those things are stiff as hell.

They used to be stiffer

 

[jstuhlman]

They used to be stiffer

hey man...that's just what happens with age.

 

[chris_f]

They used to be stiffer

When? I have a 2015/16 36 on my bike and I wonder if that's one with a good chassis or not. 170mm travel and can take both kinds of axles, 20mm and 15mm.

 

[Jm_]

Well, for one, when pinch bolts were used instead of stupid screw-on axles. Of course, they struggled to get some kind of QR on there so that thieves could easily steal your wheels, cuz that's important, eventually settling with the screw-on axle.

 

[HAB]

When? I have a 2015/16 36 on my bike and I wonder if that's one with a good chassis or not. 170mm travel and can take both kinds of axles, 20mm and 15mm.

Those aren't bad, but the older chassis with the lower legs that extended well past the dropouts was stiffer. (And also a bunch heavier, so there's that.)

And yes, lots of people, myself included, could use a stiffer single crown.

 

[Jm_]

And yes, lots of people, myself included, could use a dual crown.

Fixed

 

[HAB]

Well, yeah, a lighter dual crown would probably be better. I already have a lowered 40 on my enderpo bike.

 

[djjohnr]

Dual crown 36 conversion supposedly coming soon - https://www.mojo.co.uk/morc-36-dc-offset-reduction-kit-1082-p.asp

As much as I like the stiffness of a dual crown I wouldn't want to deal with the steering lock issues on tight switchbacks that would come up on my enduro/trail bikes.

 

[Jm_]

As enduro bikes get more capable, it only makes sense to go to DC. Has anyone ever put a 170-180mm 29er single crown fork up against an 8" boxxer? It's freaking mind-blowing how long the axle to crown is on these single crowns and it's no mystery why so much creaking and problems with the interface are happening...all of which would be easily solved with a DC.

 

[Jm_]

Dual crown 36 conversion supposedly coming soon - https://www.mojo.co.uk/morc-36-dc-offset-reduction-kit-1082-p.asp

As much as I like the stiffness of a dual crown I wouldn't want to deal with the steering lock issues on tight switchbacks that would come up on my enduro/trail bikes.

I highly doubt you turn your bars *that* far...I did this for years and it was never an issue.