Fox 38
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Long travel 29ers, a 150 36 with a 20x110 pinch bolt axle is a nice stiff front end, a 180mm 36 with QR15 lowers is definitely not
That's the first gen of lightness.
And weakness.
Go find a 2010 somewhere and just hold it up. You'll understand.
That design came around with 26" wheels. Wheels are bigger and brakes are better these days. They need to return some burly. In addition to my 6 year old fox 40, I've also ovalized the lowers on my 36 apparently. On the brake side, so that's a problem.
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Yeah, I was afraid so. I've noticed the fork flexing fore/aft like crazy during heavy braking.
What travel do you have it set at? The one at 120mm on my hardtail is pretty solid, but the fore-aft flex was pretty bad at 180mm on bigger bikes. That length makes a difference.
You're just riding bad trails then if they have switchbacks that tight.
Here's what I do when encountering super tight switchbacks:
1. Stop and set my bike down
2. Drop'em
3. Squeeze deuce on apex
4. Leave a lighter and happier me hoping enough people get disgusted someone reroutes the trail better
It helps.
wait, wait, WAIT...so what you're saying is I can blame my flexy 180 for noodling around and destroying my knee and not my hacktastic riding "skills"? such a relief. THX BROS.
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So what do you do for the second, third and fourth in a row?
quit ridingSo what do you do for the second, third and fourth in a row?
Just like that:So what do you do for the second, third and fourth in a row?
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I'm sure some have to deal with that, but my DH bikes rarely saw the same trails since to get to the top they'd have to climb. I've also never been to a resort with tight switchbacks on their DH trails. Super Ts were pretty tight, the Dorado was better but had a tall axle to crown. The 40 was better, the RV1 is middle of the road.
I rode DH bikes at all kinds of places on DH trails, not just ski resorts. Pretty sure that riding on super-wide flow-line trails at ski resorts is a much newer thing than dual crown DH forks and general DH-bike worthy riding.
I just don't see this as a real issue. If someone wants to do bar-spins...ok then, but this falls more under one of those "perception" issues rather than a reality one, like the perception that the trees are really close so you need skinny bars or the perception that the terrain drops off to the side of the trail so you have to go real slow. That may be why we haven't seen a resurgence of these forks, because the perception will be the turning radius, that they will be heavier, bulkier, etc., even when they will be better for the purpose. It's about selling after all, not riding...
I just don't see this as a real issue. If someone wants to do bar-spins...ok then, but this falls more under one of those "perception" issues rather than a reality one, like the perception that the trees are really close so you need skinny bars or the perception that the terrain drops off to the side of the trail so you have to go real slow. That may be why we haven't seen a resurgence of these forks, because the perception will be the turning radius, that they will be heavier, bulkier, etc., even when they will be better for the purpose. It's about selling after all, not riding...
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So what do you do for the second, third and fourth in a row?
Look at maps so I don't end up on trails like that.
If led there, punch the person who took me.
This! It's a shame MRP is the only company pursuing the idea of a dual crown trail bike fork. Isn't everyone sick of creaky crowns?
Boxxer, 40 and RV1 all go down to 180mm and are within 100-200g of a Bartlett.
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why the fuck does the bartlett use a 15mm axle?
How else would you know it's for trail bikes instead of DH bikes?
We were very drunk last weekend and talking about forks, since the 38 is now a thing, we decided that the all new 42 should be also, make it a light weight freeride/park dual crown, and the 44 or 46 can be a true DH rated 29er race fork. It made a lot of sense at the time, but then we ran out of whisky and Ubered to Oktoberfest, so that's about as far as we got with it.
Even the Bartlet is 100-200g heavier than I'd like and plenty of people would like 160 or 170mm. If this was a market segment pursued by the big brands for years I bet we could have a fork within 150g of the current 36, stiffer, and quieter. Look at Maverick's "steerer bolt" as an example of how weight could be saved
Because the front wheels on everyone's enduro bikes are 15mm. Bartletts are sold aftermarket and requiring buyers to get a new wheel as well would hurt sales.
fucking lizards.
You fucking monoclers, about fifty bucks gets you in the trail dual crown tribe. No need for fancy $1000 dentist mojo!!!
Get your math right. It's TEN TIMES PLUS ONE BETTERER!!!!
There was a time when RST put out about 20 different forks which only differed in their names.
You are literally the only one.
Me, I DGAF, just stick with one standard here. 20 doesn't make the fork some ultra-rigid chassis, stanchion size, dual crowns, crown design, lowers and the actual clamp design does that.
Wankers wanting quick releases will render any "improvements" in the area of axle size null.
But it does make it more rigid.
I've owned 3 different forks and ridden them with 15mm and 20mm axles. Same lowers, same CSU, same wheels. It makes a difference, along with every other component. They lightened these things in 2015 trimming material off everything else which made them noodles compared to the old ones. Anything you can gain back is good.
I'm not the only one, just in the minority. But don't confuse 'popular' with 'what's available'. I had to go out of my way to get 20mm axles. Most people are like you and 'DFAF.' That doesn't mean they're doing it deliberately or for a reason however, they're just grabbing what's by far the most prevalent system.
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