That mean its shipped??? I hope we get ours soon.......Transcend said:
Fox DH40RC2 Pics & Info
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I try not to buy anything on a first run. Looks like a burly burlifinator though...
Bulldog said:Man, I must really love Marzocchi AND burly SC forks. The 8" DH40 is a touch lighter and a touch shorter than my 6" 66RC!Long live the ginormous SC fork!
Maybe you just really love x-ups?
Yeah, all those people who jumped on the "telephone" bandwagon back in the 1920's have got to be PISSED.Bullitrider said:
Go-ride,
Quick question. What are the center to center dimensions on the fox DH40 crowns. Im wondering if they would work on my 02 monster, i wouldn't mind bringing the legs in closer to the bike like the DH40 has them. The offset on monsters is stupid.
Thanks
Quick question. What are the center to center dimensions on the fox DH40 crowns. Im wondering if they would work on my 02 monster, i wouldn't mind bringing the legs in closer to the bike like the DH40 has them. The offset on monsters is stupid.
Thanks
James | Go-Ride said:Yeah, all those people who jumped on the "telephone" bandwagon back in the 1920's have got to be PISSED.
I mean honestly, telephones are the dumbest idea ever!
Seems to be about 78mm, I doubt it will work.Cave Dweller said:
real men talk to eachother through XBOXTranscend said:
I mean honestly, telephones are the dumbest idea ever!
Wouldn't that screw up your hub spacing? Can you move the legs closer without needing new lowers...?Cave Dweller said:
Uhh...NO.
wow, that analogy makes zero senseJames | Go-Ride said:Yeah, all those people who jumped on the "telephone" bandwagon back in the 1920's have got to be PISSED.
you do realise that reducing offset would change the handling characteristics right?Cave Dweller said:
no, the fork has 2 crown options for diff headtube lengths.MikeD said:
small for 90-165mm headtubes
and XL for 165-181nn
It's not the height of the crowns that begs the question, it's the lack of an integrated stem option.
OGRipper said:Wouldn't that screw up your hub spacing? Can you move the legs closer without needing new lowers...?
closer in the wheelbase sense, not the hub width sense...
The Go-ride DH40 Integrated Stem Upper Crown, Available in Gunmetal Gray, Fall 2005James | Go-Ride said:
He asked for the center to center dimension on the crowns so I was thinking he wants the c-c dimension of the two legs, like he wants to bring the legs closer together. Can be interpreted either way but it wouldn't be the first time I was wrong.
So Cave Dweller, which is it? Center to center of the legs, or center of the legs to, uh, center of the headtube?
Either way...no. Just kidding. Heh.
So Cave Dweller, which is it? Center to center of the legs, or center of the legs to, uh, center of the headtube?
Either way...no. Just kidding. Heh.
mine is in route also..cant wait!
fox told me today that they wont have any of these forks til march, so they're clearly telling customers a later date as to not harness any false hope of arrivals. I EP'd one waaay back in december...anyone have any dates or ideas about when us EP children should be receiving ours???
Chris is that A-C measurement to the crownrace or to the bottom of the crown on the stanchions?
Im phsyced to get mine, i was told it wouldnt be untill march though? The only thing im worried about is that damn adjuster knob sticking out on the bottom right leg, i banged up both legs on my dorado real well this past season....
Also, do you think the cheaper version (without high/low compression) will weigh less by any chance?
Im phsyced to get mine, i was told it wouldnt be untill march though? The only thing im worried about is that damn adjuster knob sticking out on the bottom right leg, i banged up both legs on my dorado real well this past season....
Also, do you think the cheaper version (without high/low compression) will weigh less by any chance?
all forks are foward from the steerer tube; this is called fork offset (or rake) and it's a necessary geometry for proper steering. Giving a fork zero offset would make it handle like a shopping cart. The crowns only determine one part of the offset, the other is via the dropouts.joelsman said:
Changing your Monsters offset without knowing the handling consequences would be dumb; it could totally kill your steering ability.
Sorry, might not have said it clearly enough.OGRipper said:He asked for the center to center dimension on the crowns so I was thinking he wants the c-c dimension of the two legs, like he wants to bring the legs closer together. Can be interpreted either way but it wouldn't be the first time I was wrong.
So Cave Dweller, which is it? Center to center of the legs, or center of the legs to, uh, center of the headtube?
Either way...no. Just kidding. Heh.
Yes zedro, i know it will change the handling, for the better. They designed them this way for northshore riding were turning circle is important, not so important in DH.
The crowns on the monsters push the legs out on the fork, effectivly making the wheel base longer. The fox crowns put the legs almost in line with the streerer tube which i what i want. I love the monsters, but because the legs are pushed out in front they have a kind of slow sloppy "steering a boat" feeling to them when going fast. I don't know if anyone else feels it. but when i went from doraods to monsters i felt it, you get to a certain point and the bike fells like it wants to collapse.
Changing the crowns ain't that dumb, the fox forks have almost the same amount of offset at the wheel (from my visual observation) so i'd say it would be fine.
I was wanting to know, that since the fox fork has 40mm legs and the monster has 40mm legs, if i could put a fox crown on the monster. So i need the center of leg to center of leg measurement.
I doubt it will work but it is worth a try. I was hoping to put these crowns on, and i am soon planning on removing a spring, air up one side (aka zedro's shiver), reduce the oil hieght and put in a custem Ti spring in the other leg and end up with an 8pound monster T
neaky: -Matt
man thats hot. the upper part reminds me much of the 02 monster. wish i had the money. oh well im content w/ my 9 lb shiver
Ok I be corrected. Good luck with that.
you dont seem to understand that the offset (crown and dropout) has nothing to do with turning radius, it has to do with whats called 'trail', a geometry in steering. A fork like the F40 may have less crown offset but more dropout offset; the total offset may be the same (like S8 have all their offsets at the crowns and none at the dropout).Cave Dweller said:
Generally there is a limit to the amount of offset that is usable. Using a zero offset crown on your Monster will probably make it unridable (marz typically uses 50/50 offset between the crowns and dropouts). Less offset = twitchier steering, and it doesnt have anything to do with wheelbase, but rather the distance between where the headtube axis meets the ground and the tire contact point (ie. trail). Ride with your front wheel backwards and you'll see what i mean.
That 'collapsing' feeling is what happens with slack head angles.
I plan on making a custom crown with holes for an integrated stem as soon as my fork lands on my door step.
Don't worry, I will make a few of them.
Don't worry, I will make a few of them.
Yes yes, i understand all this. The reason i want to bring the legs in IS to make them twicher and make the bike a little livlier to take away the "steering a boat" sensation.zedro said:
The offset of the wheel on the monster and fox looks resonably dam close, see pics below. Granted, there is probably a minute differance. The major differance is between the crowns, see pics. There is no reason to do this, other then to assist in low speed north shore type riding where it is nice to have 180 degree movement of the front wheel. There are no clearance issues with the fork brace or anything so that has to be the reason to do it. The monster was never intended to be a race fork thats why the crowns are this way. Check out the offset on a 888 and thats what a maz race fork offset should be.
I understand if i bring them in two close it will cause problems but i'm sure i can bring them in almost as close as the fox's ones are without causing any issues, im sure fox has done the homework on all the offsets etc, all i have to do is mimic what they have done.
-Matt
ok, for some reason i thought the Monster and Shiver had the same offset but they dont; Shiver is 25+25, Monster is 38+27 (crowns/dropout). That is pretty big.Cave Dweller said:
Where did you get access to that? Do you have the technical drawings for the forks? Do you know what the measurements for the 888's are?zedro said:
measuring how much sense an analogy makes using a numerical figure(zero) doesn't make much sense either....zedro said:wow, that analogy makes zero sense
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all the older manuals showed those measurements. The only measurement i have on the 888 is the crown offset at 17.5mmCave Dweller said:
actually zero in this case is not a numeral but rather an adjective signifying the absence or lack of making any sense. How's that mister-not-so-smarty-pantsIan Collins said:measuring how much sense an analogy makes using a numerical figure(zero) doesn't make much sense either....
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OOHH YOU GOT SERVED!zedro said:
Ummm...... i am missing the point. This would make it heavier right?Jm_ said:You should fill each leg with 300cc of 7.5 wt golden spectro too