[tuumbaq]

Not sure if it has been posted before :

http://www.sicklines.com/2011/04/18/video-2012-fox-racing-shox-40-36-32-fork-rp23-shock-factory-performance-and-evolution/

 

[zdubyadubya]

I'm a Boxxer guy, but damn that 40 is hawt.

 

[RoboS]

Don't trust marketing managers, their job is to lie.

 

[gemini2k]

So they're going to start using actual seals in their forks? WOWZERS!

 

[Uncle Cliffy]

Darker tubes, for your pleasure.

 

[Udi]

A dramatic ridiction in stiction.

Can't argue with that!

 

[IH8Rice]

i guess my questions on if some Fox riders are using Enduro seals have been answered

 

[bullcrew]

Nice. The kashima looks good a bit more burnt in along with the decal color matching and new seals. Good for them that lineup looks bad@$$ as always.

 

[Ian Collins]

lighter low speed compression for the longer travel stuff!?!?!??! WTF???

 

[slyfink]

lighter low speed compression for the longer travel stuff!?!?!??! WTF???

for extra plushness I presume...

 

[bullcrew]

Probably because they have a mid speed valve so they can open the low speed up a little. The new stuff is better than the old. I used to blow through travel on the 40s so i never really cared for.them. After riding the new 36 180m im sold on the direction of improvement.

 

[epic]

I'm all for new stuff, but 2012? Now?

 

[IH8Rice]

I'm all for new stuff, but 2012? Now?

yeah, i think they might be the only people to ever do something like this

 

[Uncle Cliffy]

I'm all for new stuff, but 2012? Now?

Sea Otter is Fox's traditional launch date to show new product. They've been doing this since I can remember.

 

[Hellpoker]

Sigh, just bought fox 40 2011 kashima, now i need to sell it once the 2012 is released.

 

[mullet_dew]

Sigh, just bought fox 40 2011 kashima, now i need to sell it once the 2012 is released.

I really feel for you man, having to ride last years product is a burden no man should bear.

 

[John P.]

I'm normally the guy to call BS on this sort of stuff, but I got a chance to do several rides on some forks with the SKF seals, and it's pretty amazing how supple they are.

 

[Transcend]

Look for fox riders to be on different forks altogether here in Africa... the "40" name may be going away soon.

 

[gemini2k]

Look for fox riders to be on different forks altogether here in Africa... the "40" name may be going away soon.

Whoa, whoa. Why you toy with us?

 

[armada]

the fox 50? want one bigger is better

 

[Uncle Cliffy]

the fox 50? want one bigger is better

Nah, it's the Fox 39.12586. With;

Keronite coated bolts,
hi and low mid-speed damping adjusters,
2 backup bladders to blow, (pre-installed)
Boxxer and 888 stem standard,
22.5 mm front axle,
Adamantium lowers,

and instead of using an air spring, it will have the new "Dark matter" spring, brought from the depths of a black hole, to keep weight down. 2015 model year going on sale first quarter of 2012 so they can sell enough before the apocalypse.

 

[frango]

Want one!

 

[epic]

Did anybody else notice that they had a Fox 34 in there? It looks like it was only for 29ers.

 

[frango]

Did anybody else notice that they had a Fox 34 in there? It looks like it was only for 29ers.

Or maybe new one, for trail 29ers, as it's growing segment...

 

[illnotsick]

Why won't they make a float 40?

 

[time-bomb]

Why won't they make a float 40?

I think that would be pretty sick.

 

[zdubyadubya]

Look for fox riders to be on different forks altogether here in Africa... the "40" name may be going away soon.

this deserves repeating... WHAT!!!????

 

[yetihenry]

i guess my questions on if some Fox riders are using Enduro seals have been answered

Gee Atherton at the second round of the BDS at Moelfre was on "new" seals. But these seals are blue, so not sure whether they are fox or not...

Dan wasn't quite so lucky, just got some chucked some regular enduro's it seems...

 

[IH8Rice]

Gee Atherton at the second round of the BDS at Moelfre was on "new" seals. But these seals are blue, so not sure whether they are fox or not...

yeah, i saw some of the TWR guys with the blue seals but figured they were just testing Enduros. but if the stock Fox forks are using new seals, maybe the top guys are just running early proto blue seals from their new supplier. color is easy enough to change on rubber parts.

 

[NoUseForAName]

maybe the top guys are just running early proto blue seals from their new supplier. color is easy enough to change on rubber parts.

Plus it means you know which are which...

 

[big-ted]

So, do we think that the move to 34mm stanchions on 29er fork means Fox plans on offering a 34mm fork in 150mm travel for 26 inch wheels? Granted, I could go out and space a 36 float own to 150mm, but I'd like to see the bike industry as a whole move to speccing decently stiff 150mm travel forks on trail bikes, and none of this 32mm stanchioned, 15mm axle crap. I've got my fingers crossed Fox are about to provide the impetus to do that.

 

[illnotsick]

I think that would be pretty sick.

The solo air assembly + stanchion from a 32mm boxxer fit inside my 40 stanchion with the the spring taken out.

 

[Pslide]

Sea Otter is Fox's traditional launch date to show new product. They've been doing this since I can remember.

What would you say is Fox's traditional product available date then?

I could use one of those 140mm 29er forks for a summer project (after I sell a kidney).

 

[Uncle Cliffy]

What would you say is Fox's traditional product available date then?

I could use one of those 140mm 29er forks for a summer project (after I sell a kidney).

Seems like they get stuff out there within a couple months. Some models become available sooner IIRC.

 

[Steve M]

lighter low speed compression for the longer travel stuff!?!?!??! WTF???

Compared to XC stuff, obviously yes... they've increased the LSC over the years across the board. You can't run DH forks at near-lockout, whereas obviously that's the setup a lot of XC riders prefer. I don't think the guy in the video was saying that the damper tune for the MY12 40 was going to be LIGHTER than the current one, just lighter than the XC tunes, which should be obvious anyway, but it seems to me that it's more a housekeeping thing on Fox's part to separate pedal-power and gravity as the primary driving forces for different types of bikes, and thus alter the damper tunes those types of bike receive accordingly.

The SKF seals sound awesome. I really like Fox's approach to nailing each shortcoming of their products one by one and doing it thoroughly, nobody else is really doing things quite as thoroughly. Hopefully the SKF stuff is better at keeping oil inside as well as lower friction, because the old seals certainly weren't giving Marz any competition in terms of longevity.

 

[ianjenn]

I really like Fox's approach to nailing each shortcoming of their products one by one and doing it thoroughly, nobody else is really doing things quite as thoroughly. Hopefully the SKF stuff is better at keeping oil inside as well as lower friction, because the old seals certainly weren't giving Marz any competition in terms of longevity.

How well are they holding up to rock impacts these days? Any good MOTO suspension company can coat your fork legs BTW! The 2011 40 felt pretty good.

 

[buckoW]

Compared to XC stuff, obviously yes... they've increased the LSC over the years across the board. You can't run DH forks at near-lockout, whereas obviously that's the setup a lot of XC riders prefer. I don't think the guy in the video was saying that the damper tune for the MY12 40 was going to be LIGHTER than the current one, just lighter than the XC tunes, which should be obvious anyway, but it seems to me that it's more a housekeeping thing on Fox's part to separate pedal-power and gravity as the primary driving forces for different types of bikes, and thus alter the damper tunes those types of bike receive accordingly.

The SKF seals sound awesome. I really like Fox's approach to nailing each shortcoming of their products one by one and doing it thoroughly, nobody else is really doing things quite as thoroughly. Hopefully the SKF stuff is better at keeping oil inside as well as lower friction, because the old seals certainly weren't giving Marz any competition in terms of longevity.

I have been on the new seals since last fall. They are a huge improvement, IMO. The new damping is sweet too. There is plenty of damping and a nice use-able range. I am much happier on the new stuff and it is a noticeable difference. Zero problems or oil changes since last fall. The 2011 RC4 compression is also much better in my opinion.

 

[frango]

It's good to hear that improvments are not just marketing BS I hope I'll some $$ to get 2012 36 180 Float for the next season

 

[Pslide]

The 2011 RC4 compression is also much better in my opinion.

In what way?

 

[buckoW]

It's good to hear that improvments are not just marketing BS I hope I'll some $$ to get 2012 36 180 Float for the next season

I think they are getting every aspect really dialed and the difference between even an 2009 40 is huge. I am so stoked on my suspension right now! I had some runs on the Champéry track yesterday just to see what trail work I have to do to get it ready for the season and I kept thinking how good the new stuff feels. I am totally biased so take it for what it is worth.