Frameworks DH frames are happening
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tell me you never really paid attention to who was racing enduro™ without telling me you never really paid attention to was racing enduro
remember how people like yoann barelli got his start in dh? Remember the 'spirit of enduro' and which country was it that made everyone start using that phrase? Was germany right? Great Brittain? Nah that's not it.....which one was it again?
come to the US and pay attention to exactly which variety of bikes get pulled out of 150k sprinter vans
enduro™ was the final gentrification nail in this sport's coffin. Because the industry decided it wanted to make it more marketable with larger profit margins. Now we have shittier trails getting built everywhere and even more disposable trash with a new sticker passing as technological advancement. Enduro was capitalism, nothing more. Not some fuckng huggy wuggy familly luv fest. You act like pedaling uphill and going fast down a trail never existed prior. Even *gasp* with other friends there too.
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Dude like the last 7 EWS/EDR male overall winners were US, Canadian or Australian. They've held events in Columbia, Chile, Australia, New Zealand, Portugal, Ireland as well as mainland Europe and North America.
Ya'll blaming enduro for shitty trails cos it occurred at the same time whereas the real culprit was "trails for everybody" push from the bike industry so they could shift more stock to the masses.
It wasn't God realising he made a mistake that killed it, it was the UCI getting sick of non-Frenchies winning stuff and choking it back to a series based in Europe. DH got to the point now where anytime the top princesses have to leave their chalets and travel across the pond they whinge about jetlag and say the courses and too flat and physical. And god forbid some privateers park their vans near the pits cos they'll get called gypsies for bringing the sport into disrepute.
Ya'll blaming enduro for shitty trails cos it occurred at the same time whereas the real culprit was "trails for everybody" push from the bike industry so they could shift more stock to the masses.
It wasn't God realising he made a mistake that killed it, it was the UCI getting sick of non-Frenchies winning stuff and choking it back to a series based in Europe. DH got to the point now where anytime the top princesses have to leave their chalets and travel across the pond they whinge about jetlag and say the courses and too flat and physical. And god forbid some privateers park their vans near the pits cos they'll get called gypsies for bringing the sport into disrepute.
Eh, either way people rip on it but I thought the old series was sick and waaay easier to participate in for mortals. The tracks and venues were awesome, regular folks could have a crack at it and you didn't need a shuttle driver or chairlift for young riders to give it a go. Plus you got to race for 30+ minutes a day rather than one 3-5 minute blast. Sure there was some fashion mistakes and corny marketing vibes that the vampiric industry attached to it to make it a cash cow but at its roots it was basically a run-what-ya-brung sport that you could give a go at half the outlay and upkeep costs.
*global hug*
Same thing.
Another way to market trailbikes was enduro, to do what? "grow the sport"
You're now looking at the result of the larger push, one symptom of which was the spirit of enderpo
No it was definitely god. And definitely not a lighhearted joke you're totally overreacting over.
similar sentiments here. the years when everyone would race the same course & day - and rub elbows with top pros (oh hi, mr sam hill) were rad. evidently wasn't sustainable as popularity grew (registration went from first come first serve to lottery to separate pro & amateur events), but those were some of my most memorable racing experiences.
time for the rest of the world to have their own series on their superior race tracks with hookers, and blow
i was thinking about the K9 the other day. Friend had one.
Drive 4-5 hours to race DH for the weekend at $75 per entry and $7 a gallon fuel or drive 20 miles and race MX for $45 on the same priced bike at 4x the speeds........
4300 Euro for a single pivot frame-
I'd think a BTR would be dearer than that and they are made in house.
I think 4k is a lot for a frame but it seems less insane than a $1000+ fork that needs burnishing to make it work properly.
I'd think a BTR would be dearer than that and they are made in house.
I think 4k is a lot for a frame but it seems less insane than a $1000+ fork that needs burnishing to make it work properly.
Nailed it.
Also, this is a post that deserves winner, as well as horns and funny emoticons.
Kudos.
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I'm of two minds about Enduro racing. One the one hand, it's boring to watch, and not as exciting as DH.
On the other hand, I've seen so many more kids get into our sport as a result of its accessibility. It's like the parents don't realize that it is as dangerous (or more?) as DH, and think it's a good, wholesome sport. They get involved, go to races at lift-accessed resorts all around here (North-East Canada/US). The thing is, these kids then realize how awesome DH bikes are, and how much fun DH riding is, and voilà, the future is assured... It's almost like Enduro riding is the gateway drug to DH. I know that in some places (usually locals at bigger locations) will have groms riding DH bikes right from the get-go, but that's pretty rare. I think.
On the other hand, I've seen so many more kids get into our sport as a result of its accessibility. It's like the parents don't realize that it is as dangerous (or more?) as DH, and think it's a good, wholesome sport. They get involved, go to races at lift-accessed resorts all around here (North-East Canada/US). The thing is, these kids then realize how awesome DH bikes are, and how much fun DH riding is, and voilà, the future is assured... It's almost like Enduro riding is the gateway drug to DH. I know that in some places (usually locals at bigger locations) will have groms riding DH bikes right from the get-go, but that's pretty rare. I think.
It is one of the lightest carbon frames for the given application and made in Germany. That should justify the price IMO.
LAST Bikes - Manufacturing
Besides a careful engineering process, the manufacturing of the frames is very significant for the quality of our bikesThat is why we use high-quality materials in frame construction and use the most modern production technologies
Yeah, my allied bc40 is insanely light, and insanely expensive. Just seems to fly uphill.It is one of the lightest carbon frames for the given application and made in Germany. That should justify the price IMO.
And it is a flex stay frame, so 4-bar-ish.LAST Bikes - Manufacturing
Besides a careful engineering process, the manufacturing of the frames is very significant for the quality of our bikesThat is why we use high-quality materials in frame construction and use the most modern production technologieswww.last-bikes.com
I read on Ridemonkey that Enduro is just a sport for washed-up downhill riders and dentists that think dirt bike riding is to proletarian.
thats why I ride dirtbikesI read on Ridemonkey that Enduro is just a sport for washed-up downhill riders and dentists that think dirt bike riding is to proletarian.
douche repellant
The Valour
The VOID is designed around a single-pivot platform and will come in two-wheel sizes, 27.5 and 29in. Its geometry is a development from our tried, tested and much loved XFS and Party Stripper frames...
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So is that a new bike that's the same as the frameworks one?The Valour
The VOID is designed around a single-pivot platform and will come in two-wheel sizes, 27.5 and 29in. Its geometry is a development from our tried, tested and much loved XFS and Party Stripper frames...
but single pivot/faux bar instead of Horst Link.
Yep, they are even proud of their discolored welds.
Not hearing of many breaking though, so maybe OK?
yeah, this ain't the tidiest of ti beads
I’ve also never seen one in the flesh, or at any kind of event coverage…just a few in “dream builds” style shoots.Yep, they are even proud of their discolored welds.
Not hearing of many breaking though, so maybe OK?
that swingarm yolk looks like a noodle
yes I just said it looks flexy
AND I MEAN IT!
yes I just said it looks flexy
AND I MEAN IT!
They were previously located in Copenhagen, Denmark, so some were floating around here. Overall they looked OK made, but Planet X Ti frames looked cleaner. I assume they come out of different factories in China.
What's with the cable routing? Won't those get tugged on each compression?yeah, this ain't the tidiest of ti beads
ah yes, so, something completely unrelated!
(checks notes, this is Ridemonkey!, carry on)
Sorry, I shouldn't have distracted the point of this thread, the history and future of enduro.
hey. fellas. quit your off topic yappin' and speculative gum flappin'. here's everything you need to know.
Straight tubes, no paint on the frame/rear end.
Lots of cost saving put into that $3000 frame/shock.
Lots of cost saving put into that $3000 frame/shock.
outside south pacific slave labor, that's probably what mtb frames should really costLots of cost saving put into that $3000 frame/shock.
thanks NAFTA!