Ronald Reagan, zero bombs dropped. France did airstrikes then too. But, but, but...Benghazi! :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombing#American_and_French_response
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you should read the whole section you linked to
and why there wasnt an full retaliation (who know who attacked Paris)
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So would you say Reagan Cut and Ran?
Clearly states no retaliatory response in your quote (defensive barrages and air strikes only-"naval barrages and air strikes used to interdict continuous harassing fire from Druze and Syrian missile and artillery sites") and earlier it clearly states: "A joint American-French air assault on the camp where the bombing was planned was also approved by Reagan and Mitterrand. U.S. Defense Secretary Weinberger lobbied successfully against the mission, because at the time it was not certain that Iran was behind the attack"
you said reagan dropped no bombs. clearly he did
Actually it is a long complicated history. Much of it driven by what the British did when fighting the Ottomans during WWI, reality show levels or lying, backstabbing and scheming that left the region ripe for conflict. Throw in a few cups of old school colonialism with some Cold War turf wars and you get the clusterfuck we now have on our hands.
Religion, Western Hubris, Eastern hubris, humans generally being vile.
Actually I can't help but thank all the Western states to sell boatloads of weapons to the Middle East and schooling them how to use them.
Did you really think they were your friends?Was it really worth the oil?
You should have left them in the stone age.
Did you really think they were your friends?Was it really worth the oil?
You should have left them in the stone age.
If you look at all the cultural heritage Isis is hell bent on eradicating it becomes clear that this region made it out of the stone age a lot earlier than enlightened Europe. I do get your point about western opportunism, particularly conflict averse Germany has been happily equipping the militaries of several questionable middle east governments with state of the art weapons. And these regimes are doing eff all about Isis since eradicating the Shias is something they are not exactly opposed to.
You are right on that point. I didn't reflect on that really.
But this got me to another question:
When and what went wrong in their evolution that we came to this point?
Was that all caused by the crusades?
What happened in that region, that there are so much extremistic movements in the middle east?
Is it poverty combined with religion?
Dont forget that the crusades were mostly a geo political campaign to counter the threat of Muslim Turks against the Byzantine empire...
I think the anwser lies mostly in religion, and in this case the Islamic one.
I think the anwser lies mostly in religion, and in this case the Islamic one.
Pretty much what Westy stated above, plus sectarianism within Islam. It's important to keep in mind that the extremely radical interpretations of Islam that are used to justify this insanity are fairly recent phenomena that were only able to flourish because of the backwardness of this region.
Just look at the cultural and scientific output of Islamic countries during the middle ages and then compare it to the cultural and scientific contributions that come from the Arab world today. There are some good talks by Lawrence Wright (The Looming Tower) on youtube where he addresses this issue, and the numbers are shocking. Since Sayyid Qutb is a central figure in The Looming Tower, "The Power of Nightmares", where he also takes center stage, might be a good companion piece. Be aware that it's made by Adam Curtis, who never let's objectivity get in the way of making an interesting point.
here's a shocker... maybe they only wanted us to believe they were refugees...
http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/11/16/3722838/all-paris-attackers-identified-so-far-are-european-nationals-according-to-top-eu-official/
http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/11/16/3722838/all-paris-attackers-identified-so-far-are-european-nationals-according-to-top-eu-official/
Oh noes! the New World Order!
These people are terrifyingly retarded. Watched too many Scooby-Do episodes.
http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/were-the-paris-attacks-predicted-on-the-january-cover-of-the-economist/#prettyPhoto
next theory: ISIS is secretly run by the lizard people
huckabee's selective memory
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/11/17/3722965/huckabee-muslims-are-the-only-terrorists/
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/11/17/3722965/huckabee-muslims-are-the-only-terrorists/
Just like @dtm1 said!
Newtown too. No actual dead kids. Just a setup by Obama so the UN could take your gunz!
Same thing with the OKC bombing, so Clinton could take yer fertilisorz.
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Review:_A_Noble_Lie:_Oklahoma_City_1995_--_Bombing_was_a_False_Flag_Event
http://nodisinfo.com/hard-proof-oklahoma-city-bombing-hoax/
Heard that on NPR earlier.
"Expert" (I have no idea who he was) said something to effect that the Douche (French for Daesh) were outraged that Muslims wanted to leave the caliphate so they could smoke cigs, drink booze and bang infidel women.
Also want to ramp up frothers, amplify anti Muslim sentiment to keep recruit supply inventory.
A soccer game was canceled this evening in Hannover. 1,5 hours before the beginning of the game the security pulled the plug.
Seems like there were found indications for a planned bombing in the stadium...
Seems like there were found indications for a planned bombing in the stadium...
Definitely. Nothing but peace in this region until WWI.
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Que?
Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
perhaps if every isis man experienced sema once in their life the world would be a better place.
As long as they are white and worship the appropriate imaginary eye in the sky, amiright?
source?
Deadspin.
deadspin = sports blog
Maybe bombing brown skins is a sport in Russia?