Are you using ice tech rotors?Yeah, I think I spoke a little too soon too. Mine are a ton better with the Formula pads, but it's not 100% gone.
Yes it should work fine, you can use the servo wave levers. I would buy the cheapest SW levers (eg. Deore with SW) so it's not a big investment if you don't like it for some reason. SLX and Zee should work fine too.Has anyone put Shimano lever assemblies on Magura MT6 Next brakes... or other 2-piston MT Next series? (either Shimano Servo Wave or non-SW versions? Being just a 2-piston affair I'm not sure how servo wave would affect things.)
Yes, but they're very new. <10 rides. I put new rotors and the Shimano pads on at the same time, replacing old ice tech rotors and Formula pads that had been quiet. Going back to Formula pads on the new rotors made the issue vastly better, but not 100% gone.Are you using ice tech rotors?
It's a known issue as they wear. You can try fresh rotors or a different brand.
Fantastic, thanks for all your research here -- talk about a data-rich thread!Are you using ice tech rotors?
It's a known issue as they wear. You can try fresh rotors or a different brand.
Yes it should work fine, you can use the servo wave levers. I would buy the cheapest SW levers (eg. Deore with SW) so it's not a big investment if you don't like it for some reason. SLX and Zee should work fine too.
The number of pistons don't matter at all, only the total slave area, and from memory the MT 2-pot series are the same or very close to the Shimano 2-pot calipers anyway. The data should be in my spreadsheet in post #1 of this thread.
I wonder if they leak twice as fast?
I had a pair of 755s that I used forever, then sold to a friend who still uses them on her Glory. Easily 15 years of regular use.I wonder if they leak twice as fast?
Yeah I'm just being a prick. Had heaps of mates have problems with leaking newer-model XTs. I reckon if they sort that issue, these things will be awesome. I miss the days of Shimano brakes being the most reliable option around.I had a pair of 755s that I used forever, then sold to a friend who still uses them on her Glory. Easily 15 years of regular use.
Shimano is going to sell a million of these.
mine haven't (yet?)Every single current shimano caliper leaks. Don't care what worked in 1963. There's no reason to believe anything new will be any different.
Just deleted my post, they mis-labeled the caliper and it was a 2001 instead of 2011. Sorry.Thanks mate!
jack_Nicholson_nodding.gifI had planned to mate MT5 calipers to my Zee/Deore levers over the next weeks,
Still, the full set of MT5s with levers is only a bit more expensive than one XT caliper, so i might stil go through with it.
Linky?There's an interview with an EWS mechanic over on NSMB where he talks about re-bleeding his riders Shimano brakes in the morning because air leaks in overnight. Quality.
You get to say:What's the difference between zees and xt 4 pots?
Probably the just the logo, same as Zee and Saint that also only have different levers from what i understand. I haven't had too many problems with my Shimano brakes, but my childlike forearms and womanly hands wouldn't mind more power. The Magura piston has a 10% larger surface area than the Saint/Zee one and 19% larger than (old) XT/SLX/XTR.What's the difference between zees and xt 4 pots? seems to me that nobody complains about shimano power, just reliability.
FTFYThe Magura piston has the same surface area as the Saint/Zee one and 19% larger than (old) XT/SLX/XTR.
Yeah I've been wishing this for a decade now.All the XT line would need is an 83 spindle crank
See above RE: respraying old junk.What's the difference between zees and xt 4 pots?
There is a solution for running XT cranks on a 83 mm BB: http://forums.mtbr.com/downhill-freeride/83-mm-bottom-bracket-xt-cranks-sort-440229.html (CAUTION: Emptybeer link!)Yeah I've been wishing this for a decade now.
you can replace just the pistons? Can you link to said item? I slightly damaged one of my pistons trying to push it back in with a screw driver (rookie sleep-deprived dad mistake...). It's on the edge that pushes the pad, so I don't think it will have immediate impacts, but it might score the bore-hole (is that even a word)...My chinese non ceramic pistons were waiting for me when I got home. I ordered 4 'units' and got 4 pistons.......so one pair of brakes. Just fyi in case anyone else wants to maybe try and salvage some shimano brakes.
Unfortunately I screwed up my back pretty badly saturday so won't be able ride them for a while. Might install them anyway just to see if they leak sitting there.
Yeah, was aware of that (although not that they came in 165mm, wonder how common that is in that big-gear version..) - but it looks like a huge fiasco I cbf with.There is a solution for running XT cranks on a 83 mm BB: http://forums.mtbr.com/downhill-freeride/83-mm-bottom-bracket-xt-cranks-sort-440229.html (CAUTION: Emptybeer link!)
Then you could use these: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001PTCKJO?tag=MBTRForums-VigLink-Convert-20
Voila, you did what Shimano couldn't.
They might use a slightly lighter casting on the xt stuff.
But yeah......not sure the point other than just saying you have the same logo as your drivetrain or something for a build kit.
Might be seals or just the way they interact with the ceramic.So have we root caused that the ceramic pistons are the problem with Shimano brakes? I'd be interested if anyone has a surface profilometer and could quantify the rms or microinch surface texture of the ceramic. Seems to me just looking at them that they are far rougher than a metal piston....