you sure pissed and moaned about the lead time though.
Frankenbrakes and brake improvement discussion
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He's been pissing and moaning as much as @jonKranked.you sure pissed and moaned about the lead time though.
What's actually upsetting me is that jonKranked has been the one talking the most sense lately, it's making me uncomfortable but I'm not sure how or where to complain about it.
Well, now that my nascent attempt to get some seed investment for my Triq-Stuph brakes is dead in the water, I've gone back to the other option... Frankenbraking. Put a set of L04Cs on my Formulas; they fit well and they're bedding in pretty nicely so far.
On to the next problem... of course. I've put a 203mm on the back to try match the eyeball popping power of Saints (my old brakes). The adapter pictured actually flexes noticeably under hard braking. It also makes an intermittent whine. Looking at it, I'm not surprised since the damn thing is cantilevered out so far from the frame mounts. I'm kind of curious to solve this from an intellectual perspective if nothing else- I may go back to a 180mm on the rear if I can get enough power.
Has anyone ever used a more burly adapter to remedy this problem? Would steel be a better option- if one even exists?
On to the next problem... of course. I've put a 203mm on the back to try match the eyeball popping power of Saints (my old brakes). The adapter pictured actually flexes noticeably under hard braking. It also makes an intermittent whine. Looking at it, I'm not surprised since the damn thing is cantilevered out so far from the frame mounts. I'm kind of curious to solve this from an intellectual perspective if nothing else- I may go back to a 180mm on the rear if I can get enough power.
Has anyone ever used a more burly adapter to remedy this problem? Would steel be a better option- if one even exists?
Mah tahtaineeyum hardtail with an 8 inch rotor done vibratin'!!!!
Maybe a hope floating rotor? Throw one organic pad on one side.
Maybe a hope floating rotor? Throw one organic pad on one side.
Sounds like ya speakin' strayan there mate!
Caliper might be flexing too, but adaptor was definitely moving relative to the frame.
oops posted my new bike in the wrong thread lol.
@Kurt_80 it might be worth trying Formula or Avid Adapters, they are thicker than shimano. Also I found stronger bolts tightened up super hard also helped with flex, but i'm paranoid because I wrote off a dropout when they came a bit loose and adapter moving cracked it.
@Kurt_80 it might be worth trying Formula or Avid Adapters, they are thicker than shimano. Also I found stronger bolts tightened up super hard also helped with flex, but i'm paranoid because I wrote off a dropout when they came a bit loose and adapter moving cracked it.
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In a blase of redneck glory I would tape up and fill in the volume between the adaptor an caliper with bedliner. Wouldn't be much stiffer but would probably dampen the vibration significantly.
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Kurt, a buddy of mine has snapped 2 of the 180mm version of that Shimano brake mount on his Bronson with the latest XTR 4-pot brakes. Both times, the horizontal piece snaps, which in turn puts force on the caliper, which then snaps the forward brake bolt. He's bigger, but not a total clyde (~190 lbs). The second time it happened while he was just track standing in his driveway. I'd start by switching to a different bracket.
I would like to praise Magura customer service, again. Last year I bought a set of used MT7s on Pinkbike. Over the winter, the front caliper developed a sticky piston. I cleaned & lubed it about 5-6 times. Each time it'd get fixed for a few rides then return. I was going to buy a whole new caliper, but they want like $190 for it, so I called them up. I was straight up with the guy on the phone that I bought them used, and was looking to buy a new caliper but they were damn near as expensive as a complete set, and asked if he could help out at all. He sent me a brand new caliper and a bleed kit free of charge. This is the second time they've gone above and beyond for me (previously sent me a complete new MT Trail Sport rear after I snapped the MC body in a crash, also free of charge).
I would like to praise Magura customer service, again. Last year I bought a set of used MT7s on Pinkbike. Over the winter, the front caliper developed a sticky piston. I cleaned & lubed it about 5-6 times. Each time it'd get fixed for a few rides then return. I was going to buy a whole new caliper, but they want like $190 for it, so I called them up. I was straight up with the guy on the phone that I bought them used, and was looking to buy a new caliper but they were damn near as expensive as a complete set, and asked if he could help out at all. He sent me a brand new caliper and a bleed kit free of charge. This is the second time they've gone above and beyond for me (previously sent me a complete new MT Trail Sport rear after I snapped the MC body in a crash, also free of charge).
That sounds promising. Where are you based?
USA (California). Both times they had the replacement stuff to me in 2 days.
Wow. I’m up in B.C. Were you dealing with Magura in Europe directly?
Not the color option @Udi or @HAB preferred but r2bike has some red ones in stock (these look very orange to me however):
https://r2-bike.com/TRICKSTUFF-Scheibenbremse-Direttissima-Set-rot?gclid=Cj0KCQjwjcfzBRCHARIsAO-1_Or_FdYyFOB8hLIhr11xhQuhg9NoQSo7Utygu6rPFYeWOHN0Rk-e4TYaAlq1EALw_wcB
https://r2-bike.com/TRICKSTUFF-Scheibenbremse-Direttissima-Set-rot?gclid=Cj0KCQjwjcfzBRCHARIsAO-1_Or_FdYyFOB8hLIhr11xhQuhg9NoQSo7Utygu6rPFYeWOHN0Rk-e4TYaAlq1EALw_wcB
Magura USA. I called their web store number.
How would you like some electronic brake by wire Shimano brakes?
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Fuck, no.How would you like some electronic brake by wire Shimano brakes?
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At least the master cylinders won't wear out the way they do now. You'll just have to see how fast they die from dust ingress instead. Hopefully they only offer them for ebikes and power them from the bike battery so people don't die from their brake battery dying mid ride.
Just an update, after this conversation I had another look on ebay and a UK shop had a piston/seal kit for US$35 posted, most reasonable I'd seen so I ordered them.
Interested to see if it fixes it, the front one still works well, but the throw has grown long on the rear (saw a full season of DH use in 2016 before retiring to trailbike) so I suspect the seals have hardened + causing excessive rollback. Will be good to test my theory.
For reference it's a Formula ROR lever on Hayes Prime Pro caliper, benefit was a bit more power and pad size over the stock Formula, but also the Formula lever keeps them light (221g for front from memory) so most replacement brakes would have been a big weight jump.
Maybe if he brakes hard enough he can pull a superman and wind back the earth to before someone ate an under-cooked bat...
did nick ever find his trickstuffs?
Yeah, but German. The only way they can make new nouns is by putting existing ones together.
I’d buy that.
I’m too lazy to dig through the last 43 pages... tRiCk StUfF aside what is the best stock 4 piston brake right now? I am not a fan of shimano or sram and have had a mixed bag with Magura (MT7) need some brakes for my new trail bike and badly seek the approval from the ridemonkey syndicate...
I’m willing to speriment with some bastardizations (ie shigura) but need some feedback. So far the contenders for stock brakes seem to be Formula Cura 4, Hope(?), MT7s (maybe I just got a bad set or dont know how to bleed them properly) or even (gasp) Hayes!?. If no suitable alternative exists some bastardized version... halp.
I’m willing to speriment with some bastardizations (ie shigura) but need some feedback. So far the contenders for stock brakes seem to be Formula Cura 4, Hope(?), MT7s (maybe I just got a bad set or dont know how to bleed them properly) or even (gasp) Hayes!?. If no suitable alternative exists some bastardized version... halp.
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i had that setup
Mostly
26"
Formula the 1 before the radial master
220mm formula disc.
Worked geud
I bought last year and no quick connect....