[Lexx D]

I think I have something against gay people in that I have common sense.

The whole time I've been on this board stupid things have been said by myself and others.

You win! This is by far the most ignorant and childish post I've ever seen.

 

[Lexx D]

The point of equating the two (KKK and the "anti-gay movement") is to discredit and or demonize the "anti-gay" movement. If you make them look like a bunch of hateful bigots

i don't need to make them look like hateful biggots. They do a good job of that without any help.

 

[Andyman_1970]

i don't need to make them look like hateful biggots. They do a good job of that without any help.

I'll agree that the "God hates fags" folks are biggoted. But to equte all those who are "anti-gay" with the "God hates fags" folks is makeing a VERY broad generalization that I would argue is inaccurate.

 

[ALEXIS_DH]

I'll agree that the "God hates fags" folks are biggoted. But to equte all those who are "anti-gay" with the "God hates fags" folks is makeing a VERY broad generalization that I would argue is inaccurate.

how is anti-gay different from "god hates fags". other than ones using an imaginary friend to back them up.


anti-gay wouldnt be in the same section as anti-blacks or anti-catholics??

or is it in the section of anti-lawyers, anti-engineers anti-hippies???

 

[LordOpie]

the difference is between dislike and hate... hate makes people hurt others. Dislike makes you cross the street so you don't have to be near 'em. Tho Andy wouldn't cross the street, he'd either ignore you or try to help you.

 

[Andyman_1970]

how is anti-gay different from "god hates fags". other than ones using an imaginary friend to back them up.

Let me clarify, there is a huge difference between those who disagree with the gay lifestyle and the issue of gay marriage and those who take it to the extreme of "God hates fags". Just like those who kill abortion doctors and blow up planned parenthood clinics take the "anti-abortion" deal to the extreme.

For example: I myself disagree with the the gay lifestyle and the whole concept of gay marriage. Now does that mean I "hate fags"? Nope, actually just the opposite, I have several friends that are gay, one of whom I would consider a close friend. They know where I stand on thier lifestyle, but I don't beat them over the head with where I stand, I accept them as humans with value created in God's image and as such deserve to be treated respectfully. But from a moral point of view I disagree with them.

So see there is a huge difference, I would consider myself "anti-gay" but not a "God hates fags" person.

I enjoy the fact that you have fallen for the preconcieved notion that all of us who disagree with the gay lifestyle ("anti-gay") are automatically the "God hates fags" types. Isn't your "claim to fame" here on the monkey that you are the logical type who looks at all the angle's and isn't caught up in assumptions and preconceived notions?

 

[ALEXIS_DH]

So see there is a huge difference, I would consider myself "anti-gay" but not a "God hates fags" person.

I enjoy the fact that you have fallen for the preconcieved notion that all of us who disagree with the gay lifestyle ("anti-gay") are automatically the "God hates fags" types. Isn't your "claim to fame" here on the monkey that you are the logical type who looks at all the angle's and isn't caught up in assumptions and preconceived notions?

not really. i wanted to know what was your perspective on the difference between anti-gay and "god hates fags".

what is the meaning of "anti" again??
that word has something of antagonism on it.
am going by the definiton of anti in "anti-gay" which is quite different from a simple, parallel not polar opossite, disagreement on gayness.

anytime there is the word "anti" like in "anti-gay" there is a lot of antagonism within the definition of "anti".

is not something i assume. check out the "anti" root.

so its not like i say every person who dislike gays is a "god hates fags".

but any person who portraits himself as "anti-gay", certainly has some antagonism closer to "god hates fags" than that to a person who simply doesnt agree with gay-ness.

disagreement doesnt mean antagonism.

it is you assumption that disagreement and the antagonism in "anti" is the same thing.

seeeeeeeeeeeerve.

 

[LordOpie]

Isn't your "claim to fame" here on the monkey that you are the logical type who looks at all the angle's and isn't caught up in assumptions and preconceived notions?

He quit school to smoke weed wiith lenny kravitz.

 

[nicklin]

the difference is between dislike and hate... hate makes people hurt others. Dislike makes you cross the street so you don't have to be near 'em. Tho Andy wouldn't cross the street, he'd either ignore you or try to help you.

i can agree to that.......

I don't like gay people, but that does not make me go out and hurt them or organize a campaign to curb their rights. unlike many people who think the same, act the way, and secretly support the real hateful people and never say anything about theire intentions, all I said was, i may have something against them, that's a far cry from "gay should die". (now i will be condemned for saying this) how different is what I said different from a Dh rider bashing Roadies? I've seen many riders calling rodaies "stupid", "gay", "sissy", and some of us we would never get on a bike with tires narrower than 1.5 inch. Just becasue people think that somehting is stupid, it does not necessarily mean they will actively pursue that agenda performed by seemingly morally just religious organizations. i personally don't chase downroadies with a truck or open doors on them in the cities, on the contrarary i have been flipped off, spat on, and hit by roadies while getting out of cars and driving around, the irony of it all.

Disapproval is very different from doing harm. Why can militant lesbian feminists reject the normal way of living and look down on the rest of society and not vice versa? i know I'm not alone in this opinion even on this board, I just happened to be ballsy enough to say my mind. I hate to see this board to be packed with PC-obssessed folks, but I suppose there are places, like this, in some ways, like a tolerance camp, where resemblence of intolerence will not be tolerated......

nick

 

[Skookum]

i can agree to that.......

I don't like gay people, but that does not make me go out and hurt them or organize a campaign to curb their rights. unlike many people who think the same, act the way, and secretly support the real hateful people and never say anything about theire intentions, all I said was, i may have something against them, that's a far cry from "gay should die". (now i will be condemned for saying this) how different is what I said different from a Dh rider bashing Roadies? I've seen many riders calling rodaies "stupid", "gay", "sissy", and some of us we would never get on a bike with tires narrower than 1.5 inch. Just becasue people think that somehting is stupid, it does not necessarily mean they will actively pursue that agenda performed by seemingly morally just religious organizations. i personally don't chase downroadies with a truck or open doors on them in the cities, on the contrarary i have been flipped off, spat on, and hit by roadies while getting out of cars and driving around, the irony of it all.

Disapproval is very different from doing harm. Why can militant lesbian feminists reject the normal way of living and look down on the rest of society and not vice versa? i know I'm not alone in this opinion even on this board, I just happened to be ballsy enough to say my mind. I hate to see this board to be packed with PC-obssessed folks, but I suppose there are places, like this, in some ways, like a tolerance camp, where resemblence of intolerence will not be tolerated......

nick

So you're sayin your just a dick head, haha. Well then join the club, i'm a dick head too but when it comes down to brass tax, i believe that people are people.
As far as this PC thing i hear, i really don't have anyone especially a political party or popular belief totally make me conform my decisions like you say PC-obssessed folks. You're right it's popular to belittle gay people at every turn, that seems to be polically correct stance then, at least how i see it. And you got a president who's playing Taliban and trying to slap in crap in the constitution against them marrying. Right or wrong it's just reality that it's popular to crap on gays, and has been for a long frikkin time, at least how i see it...
I dunno you're not gonna see me stand on a hill raising a rainbow flag against the evil religous hordes. But i've always liked the idea of letting people live their life without being all up in their business especially if their lifestyle doesn't adversly hurt anyone.
And why is it, that the PC thing is thrown around at every turn to defend a stance one takes when their being a dick head?
And who is the militant lesbian feminist you speak of? George W. Bush?

 

[Jesus]

I don't think you are that conservative. Take the test.

http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71802&page=1&pp=15

Oh crap!

I'm in line with Ghandi and Nelson Mandela!

Liberal Left Libertarian?

I don't think so!