[BIGHIT756]

are full suspensions really bad for DJ, or can you make do? Can you keep momentum going through an entire line or are they too heavy? i have hit the first set of doubles on this line, and i feel like i wont have enough speed to hit the next one. let me know what you all think....or how to make it easier with a FS....

 

[skinny]

FS bikes can't carry as much speed through a certain section because you can't "pump" them, like you can a hardtail or fully rigid bike. If you want more speed, maybe try pedalling?

In all seriousness though, I've only ever ridden a hardtail, so I honestly couldn't tell ya how to keep speed over jumps and that kind of thing, because I don't know. Sorry I couldn't help.

 

[HRDTLBRO]

I ride hardtails as well, and I usually set the fork preload higher, and with quicker rebound, you can prepare for the next set. I'm not sure how this would affect an fs, but it may give you slightly more pump to get off the next jump lip. Not exaclty sure though.

 

[HRDTLBRO]

By the way,
How do you like the Bighit? I've ridden a few and they feel damn sweet. I ride a doped P.1, and i'm in High School as well.

 

[BIGHIT756]

i LOVE the bighit comp, it is a great solid bike, but i usually dont dirt jump often, i do the drops, and ladders, and stuff like that. yeah its a great bike, its taken everything i've thrown at it so far. are you thinking about getting one or just asking?

 

[HRDTLBRO]

I was actually about to purchase last year's orange comp, but no more were left. Now they raised the price another $300. I just can't give up a nice hardtail, so i'll be riding them for a while. Hence my screen name.

 

[kidwoo]

I ride an enduro with some aftermarket rear end pieces and have the rear set at 3.5 inches. It is a little more difficult to pump but it can be done. The benefit for me is that casing or just thumping your back wheel on the lip of a landing doesn't eat your wheel, cranks etc. Once you get used to pumping it's no big deal.

 

[RITFreeRider]

I can DJ my 42lb dh bike pretty well with some minor tweeking. I run the compression really hard and the rebound fast on my fox rc so that when I slam the bike into the lip it'll give me the most kick. It takes a little work to learn how to jump a fs bike but with practice and patients you'll be able to jump it fairly well. The guys on the hardtails will still beat you, but you'll be able to keep up fairly well. Just work on preloading the rear shock right before you go off the lip of the jump and then let the rebound of the shock kick you off the lip.

 

[BIGHIT756]

thats what i was thinkin, just pump up the shock (3-way) to its max, and set the rebound high, and see what happens.

 

[RITFreeRider]

Originally posted by BIGHIT756
thats what i was thinkin, just pump up the shock (3-way) to its max, and set the rebound high, and see what happens.

That's what I would do, and then right before you front wheel goes off the lip give the whole bike a good slam into the lip and off you should go. I don't know if it works as well with SPV shocks but my friend jumps his bike with a 5th elment well so it can def be done. Just have fun with it, good luck.

 

[BIGHIT756]

what the hell i will just try to do both sets, cuz hey, if i do cut it short and case it, i have 7.5 in back and 6 in front to back me....

 

[RITFreeRider]

Originally posted by BIGHIT756
what the hell i will just try to do both sets, cuz hey, if i do cut it short and case it, i have 7.5 in back and 6 in front to back me....

Just go faster than you need to for the first one, get a couple pedals in and hit the second and you should be fine.

 

[BIGHIT756]

the first is sorta small, then the second is pretty big. i will try that, might over shoot the first though, i dont know, i am goin there sunday, see what happens!

 

[RITFreeRider]

If you over shoot the first that's not the worst thing, you've got the travel to take that hit. You'll need the speed though to clear the bigger jump.

 

[BIGHIT756]

yeah, i suppose, ill just do it, let you know what happens....

 

[WestCoastHucker]

it dosen't really matter what you ride when you DJ. some will say no suspension some will say yes suspension. the fact is if it is your bike and you are used to it, you can bust $h!t on every line. i ride a bmx and a foes zigzag and i can rip any line on either of them. and they are VERY different bikes.
fact is, if you can really ride rhythms correctly it dosent matter, the choice is yours....

ride what you brought..........

 

[skinny]

Despite what other people are saying, I definitely would not try to get so much speed that you overshoot the first jump. That won't get you anymore speed for the second one. In fact, it will slow you down. Being smooth keeps your momentum, so if you can manage to pump the first jump so as to land as smooth as possible, you will have the most momentum for the second one. Just try to get a couple pedals in the middle, and let the suspension soak up the cases. Good luck.

edit: Sorry, when I say land as smooth as possible, that means land both wheels on the tranny of the first one, rather than landing flat.

 

[BIGHIT756]

i know i am pretty comfortable on my bike, and i am confident that i can hit both of them, i was pretty smooth on the landing of the first one, just gotta keep it goin to the second.

 

[dirteater]

hittin the dj's on the big bike...

right click, save as....

 

[BIGHIT756]

nice video clip....how many lines do you have set up in that area there? that looks great

 

[WestCoastHucker]

Originally posted by dirteater
hittin the dj's on the big bike...

right click, save as....

another one....
http://www.geocities.com/foespilot/MarkRythm.avi

 

[Scrub]

Originally posted by kidwoo
Once you get used to pumping it's no big deal.

Really, its no big deal. hehe:devil:

 

[PoweredByMt.Dew]

What DJ's are you ridin?

 

[BIGHIT756]

I am in renton, wa and i am hitting the ones in fairwood, they are called the philly hits....the are right next to phillip arnold park. they are from 7 feet long, to i think 11-12 feet. by the way, i tried the second, and frickin cased it hard the first time, hurt like hell, then i tried it again(as if i didn't learn the first time) and cased it hard again!!! screw it i am sticking to droppin off really big things...

 

[dirteater]

Originally posted by BIGHIT756
nice video clip....how many lines do you have set up in that area there? that looks great

it is a small bmx dirt jump spot called 'little woods' built by 'little kids'. nothing special but a good place to learn to dirtjump. imo dirtjumping helps in other areas of mtb, even xc; i find myself pumping through xc trails by habit which makes you go way faster and use less energy which is needed for the big climbs.

 

[BIGHIT756]

i agree, it does teach you to land a lot better off drops with trannies, and it teaches you how to control your bike in the air. and i learned how to case it better!!

 

[bmxr]

Riding rythym on a fs is a little harder because the suspension tries to suck the energy out. Once you learn how, though, you can definitely compensate for it. Some proof (none of these guys has less than 7" front or rear...):

Short video (right click, save as . . .):
jumps in FL

Some pics:
Demolition Dave

Andy

Me

 

[BIGHIT756]

Nice pics man!! i gotta attmept the doubles again after seeing those!!! thanks!