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Fvck those guys (the Quds/IRGC)

MikeD

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Oct 26, 2001
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If that's the best they can do, expending a gajillion more dollars isn't the answer.
 

JohnE

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May 13, 2005
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Front Range, dude...
If the ambassador from the House of Saud is asasinated, then let the House of Saud go to war over it. We have enough problems in SWA as it is...
 

MikeD

Leader and Demogogue of the Ridemonkey Satinists
Oct 26, 2001
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I disagree.
Look, I'm a fan of catching bad guys. I certainly don't mind the FBI catching this bad guy. I applauded many of the previous terror cases, like the Somali guy from the last go-round.

Where I think this is getting to be BS is the political spin, like this plot originated with the mullahs in Tehran.

If the FBI put an informant in the KKK and suggested a mission to go blow any number of foreign people on their soil, they'd likely get some bites on the line. This doesn't mean the US government would have hatched a plot against whomever, which is how this is being spun, and we look ridiculous for the politics going on, not for the law enforcement.

Just thought the article was a decent one compared to many in that vein.
 

rockofullr

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Meh...

Sounds like they are doing their jorbs to me. And I don't see anyone crying foul when fake drug buys/sales are conducted by law enforcement.

Just thought the article was a decent one compared to many in that vein.
My first reaction was the article was written very poorly. I was very annoyed by the number of times the author used the word very.

Look, I'm a fan of catching bad guys. I certainly don't mind the FBI catching this bad guy. I applauded many of the previous terror cases, like the Somali guy from the last go-round.

Where I think this is getting to be BS is the political spin, like this plot originated with the mullahs in Tehran.

If the FBI put an informant in the KKK and suggested a mission to go blow any number of foreign people on their soil, they'd likely get some bites on the line. This doesn't mean the US government would have hatched a plot against whomever, which is how this is being spun, and we look ridiculous for the politics going on, not for the law enforcement.
I agree that the FBI and the White House are trying to get some political millage out of this but I'm really not surprised at this point. At least Obama isn't declaring "Mission Accomplished" in the war on terror.

As for your example. The Quds Force is closer to the CIA than the KKK. It's a government entity charged with furthering the Iranian Islamic Revolution in other countries.
 

Silver

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Meh...

Sounds like they are doing their jorbs to me. And I don't see anyone crying foul when fake drug buys/sales are conducted by law enforcement.
These operations are not like drug buys by an undercover officer. They are more like having an undercover officer approach a poor and stupid college student, setting him up in business dealing cocaine, and then busting him and patting themselves on the back for getting a vicious dealer off the street.
 

rockofullr

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These operations are not like drug buys by an undercover officer. They are more like having an undercover officer approach a poor and stupid college student, setting him up in business dealing cocaine, and then busting him and patting themselves on the back for getting a vicious dealer off the street.
lol, I'm sure we could argue all day about which hypothetical situation describes this best.

My take is that the guy was looking to carry out a terrorist attack before the DEA/FBI got involved. After all the guy he contacted was an under cover DEA agent (not FBI).

He was not minding his own business at home when the FBI called and convinced him to be a terrorist. He went and found a supposed member of the most violent drug cartel in Mexico. Not the kind of hombre you just happen to meet in a bar and start talking explosives with.
 

bean

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These operations are not like drug buys by an undercover officer. They are more like having an undercover officer approach a poor and stupid college student, setting him up in business dealing cocaine, and then busting him and patting themselves on the back for getting a vicious dealer off the street.
Yep. That seems like a pretty apt comparison.