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FW: Simplified Tax lesson

N8 v2.0

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Good Morning L'opie! :)

FW: Simplified Tax lesson
Via Email | 3 Sep | David R. Kamerschen,Ph.D

While you're watching the political commercials and listening to the politicians spin their web around unsuspecting and misinformed people...here's a "Reality" lesson in economics from David R. Kamerschen,Ph.D, Distinguished Professor of Economics, 536 Brooks Hall, University of Georgia, Athens, GA. (http://www.uga.edu/)

Top 1% earn 21% of all income; pay 37-1/2% of all taxes
Top 5% earn 35% of all income; pay 56-1/2% of all taxes
Top10% earn 46% of all income; pay 67% of all taxes
Top 25% pay 84% of all taxes
Top 50% pay 96-1/2% of all taxes
Bottom 50% pay 3-1/2% of all taxes

Just in case you are not completely clear on this issue, we hope the following will help.

Tax Cuts - A Simple Lesson In Economics

This is how the cookie crumbles. Please read it carefully.

Let's put tax cuts in terms everyone can understand. Suppose that every

day, ten people go out for dinner. The bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this:

The first four people (the poorest) would pay nothing. The fifth would pay $1. The sixth would pay $3. The seventh $7. The eighth $12. The ninth $18. The tenth person (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that's what they decided to do. The ten people ate dinner in the restaurant every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve.

"Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily meal by $20."


So, now dinner for the ten only cost $80. The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes.

So, the first four people were unaffected. They would still eat for free. But what about the other six, the paying customers? How could they divvy up the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share'?

The six people realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth person and the sixth person would each end up being 'PAID' to eat their meal.

So, the restaurant owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each person's bill by roughly the same way taxes were reduced, and he

proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.

And so:

The fifth person, like the first four, now paid nothing (100%savings).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33% savings).
The seventh now paid $5 instead of $7 (28% savings).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to eat for free. But once outside the restaurant, the people began to compare their savings.

"I only got a dollar out of the $20," declared the sixth person. He pointed to the tenth person "but he got $10!"

"Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth person who now was eating free. "I only saved a dollar, too. It's unfair that he got ten times more than I got!"

"That's true!!" shouted the seventh person. "Why should he get $10 back when I got only $2? The wealthy get all the breaks!"

"Wait a minute," yelled the first four people in unison. "We didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!"

The nine people surrounded the tenth and beat him up.

The next night the tenth person didn't show up for dinner, so the nine sat down and ate without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up at the table anymore. There are lots of good restaurants in Europe and the Caribbean.
 

MikeD

Leader and Demogogue of the Ridemonkey Satinists
Oct 26, 2001
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I'm not good at math, nor am I an economist...but aren't the politicians on both sides talking about changing the *rates* at which the various incomes pay taxes, not the overall amount we pay? I don't see how this analogy reflects that. I do see how it shows cutting overall taxation affecting the most-taxed people, as it should, but is that what all the public discourse is about?

<D
 

Silver

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Jul 20, 2002
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Much like the Laffer curve, this story is simple, attractive, and just plain wrong.

I'm not going to debunk the whole thing, but you might want to consider that it is a little simplistic to show how much each party pays without showing what they receive at the same time.
 

LordOpie

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sorry, stopped reading it... the author obviously has an agenda and axe to gring. Even if he's right -- which I didn't read enough to determine -- the way to education is not thru such an insulting agenda.
 

fluff

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LordOpie said:
sorry, stopped reading it... the author obviously has an agenda and axe to gring. Even if he's right -- which I didn't read enough to determine -- the way to education is not thru such an insulting agenda.
Well, the author as claimed by N8's post is not actually the author - check out wwwsnopes.com.

It is overly simplistic (which is probably why N8 likes it) and missed several important points.
 

MikeD

Leader and Demogogue of the Ridemonkey Satinists
Oct 26, 2001
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d'oh...snoped again.

At least all those Jane Fonda emails and pics are true, right? I mean, they have names attached to them.

MD
 

N8 v2.0

Not the sharpest tool in the shed
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fluff said:
Well, the author as claimed by N8's post is not actually the author - check out wwwsnopes.com.

It is overly simplistic (which is probably why N8 likes it) and missed several important points.

Shush!

I was hoping L'opie was gonna be the first one to Snope it out.

Kill-joy...


:nope:
 

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
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N8 said:
Shush!

I was hoping L'opie was gonna be the first one to Snope it out.

Kill-joy...


:nope:
Why did ya want me to snope it?

Dude, I'm way tooooo busy for your shinanigans! :D

If I had that much free time at work, I'd be looking at porn... *fwap*fwap*
 

fluff

Monkey Turbo
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N8 said:
Ok, I admit it... this was a Troll Bait post... it was kinda working until SOMEBODY had to go and ruin it.

:evil:
With you N8, it's often hard to tell...

..anyway, I ignored it for several hours, no one was biting much.
 

Slugman

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fluff said:
Well, the author as claimed by N8's post is not actually the author - check out wwwsnopes.com.

It is overly simplistic (which is probably why N8 likes it) and missed several important points.
Wow... A right Wined GOP lacky poste something that isn't true! What a shock. :rolleyes: