gas at $20/gallon
- Thread starter Toshi
- Start date
And this is what I don't understand about the Prius and Civic Hybrid. My '89 Honda CRX (DX, not HF) got an average of 48mpg and I drove it like I stole it. That was in 1989! So 19 years later, they now make a 4 seater that only gets 42?
I know the emissions are less, but I expected more than that by now.
As for the VW, the engine will last forever, but you will have to replace the electronics every 2 years.
Modern safety standards have increased vehicle weights. Compare the weight of your 89 to a new civic.
12345. not to mention amenities...
if you want to see what's possible look at the Aptera Typ-1. it does quite a bit better than the Prius, yes...
They don't make a 2 seater either. I don't think the safety standards add to the weight too much if you compare the Fit (2471lb) to the CRX (2174lb).
The CRX HF was ridiculous with like 55mpg.
no 2-seater? honda insight much?
last built in 2006. 48/58 according to the new epa ratings. a CRX HF would have been quite a bit lower under the new ratings imo.
I meant 2 seater civic. CRX -> Del Suck -> dead.
Like I said I averaged 48 in the DX. I would be surprised if the HF wasn't in the 50's. A turd to drive, though.
Too bad it's ugly.lots of people seem to wring 70 mpg out of the Insight, tho, to counter your anecdote + speculation with another
I disagree... when China/USSR/Germany/aliens invade, we'll change too.
And yes, the USSR WILL rise again.
if you're a skeptic of my own brilliant back-of-napkin projection for $20/gal, maybe you'll trust Goldman Sachs more:
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/goldman-sachs-raises-possibility-200/story.aspx?guid={4B702F7F-41F8-45F0-A133-630F12F2C764}
back-of-napkin projection for $20/gal, maybe you'll trust Goldman Sachs more:http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/goldman-sachs-raises-possibility-200/story.aspx?guid={4B702F7F-41F8-45F0-A133-630F12F2C764}
excerpt from article linked above said:
I had a HF and it was averaging about 50 in the highway...D
Hmmm.... I tried the math and at $200/bbl wouldn't gas only go up to about $8/gal?if you're a skeptic of my own brilliant
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/goldman-sachs-raises-possibility-200/story.aspx?guid={4B702F7F-41F8-45F0-A133-630F12F2C764}
I know I posted this in another thread, but check out
for an eye-opening take on oil production and prices.
The worst part for me was the film is made in '04 and what they talk about happening around 2010 is happening now. 2 years earlier, that's the American way!
The worst part for me was the film is made in '04 and what they talk about happening around 2010 is happening now. 2 years earlier, that's the American way!
yeah, I recently saw "a crude awakening" and some of the stuff they were predicting 10 years from now is already happening..D
grr, you and "math". yes, at straight conversions that'd be the case. however:Hmmm.... I tried the math and at $200/bbl wouldn't gas only go up to about $8/gal?
a) this was a short term prediction. $20/gal would be a bit later
b) i think our current $3.30 or whatever the current average is lagging behind the market's $105+/barrel, and we'll see further increases at the pump even if crude oil stays constant
Yeah right. The old oil companies are "lagging" in screwing us with higher prices. That must be it.
i remember thinking how stupid the premise of Mad Max that people would be fighting eachother over gas in the middle of the desert .
lol..same here....Di remember thinking how stupid the premise of Mad Max that people would be fighting eachother over gas in the middle of the desert .
There is a lag factor. I know it seems crazy but it is true.Yeah right. The old oil companies are "lagging" in screwing us with higher prices. That must be it.
wow that's getting closer to our prices...right now were at $1.17/ltr....Dthe apocalypse is nigh
(el camino real, sf)
Damn...still "only" $3.13 at my local station.
Reg unleaded here in La can be had at under $3/gal since middle of last week
PS: Have you noticed that 18 wheelers on the interstate are all driving 60-65 mph now days? I guess the cost of fuel at $4/gal hurts when your rig has two 300 gal tanks to fill up...
$2.97-3.05 for regular here in jersey
I paid $3.79 for premium this morning. It was still only $15 to fill up, though
$3.74 for regular unleaded in Ventura, CA. 
I started taking the commuter bus so I'm only driving about 4 miles a day
I started taking the commuter bus so I'm only driving about 4 miles a day
despite all my protestations i now have a 36 mile round trip commute by car for 2 of 4 weeks this month. this sucks.
biking is out since the roads between my temporary apartment and the clinic are 50 mph limit and crowded (the other option is a 60 mph freeway that does allow shoulder biking -- sketchy!), not to mention 18 miles and considerable elevation change. busing is not reasonable since my seattle area pass isn't valid in this town, 40some miles southward.
and not going is not an option, since i need these credits to graduate.
biking is out since the roads between my temporary apartment and the clinic are 50 mph limit and crowded (the other option is a 60 mph freeway that does allow shoulder biking -- sketchy!), not to mention 18 miles and considerable elevation change. busing is not reasonable since my seattle area pass isn't valid in this town, 40some miles southward.
and not going is not an option, since i need these credits to graduate.
$3.45 regular
$3.75 premium (what I run in the moto)
$4.26 diesel
$3.75 premium (what I run in the moto)
$4.26 diesel
with oil over $115/barrel, another jump is on the way today & tomorrow
A large majority of our population is in a similar situation as you. That is why the high gas prices are hurting this economy so much right now. A lot of people can't just change things to make the gas prices affordable.well, when I have a choice in where I live and work I'll be a whole lot closer than 18 miles. I'm captive labor now.
i don't think they're in quite the same situation as me
. i'm finishing up the last 8 credits of grad school and the decision of where i'd be for this last month was handed down from above via the dean's office.with "normal" jobs one has some choice. not so here.
i am doing my part to reduce my energy usage, however (in addition to the typical recycling/compact fluorescent/thermostat at 62 deal): my RX-8's up for sale, and i'm driving it quite slowly while it's still in my paws. 60 mph on cruise control in the right lane has netted me over 22 mpg average the last two tanks. not bad for a combined cycle in a car rated 16/22 by the EPA, but not stellar in the grand scheme of things.
Well that's just silly. You might as well drive it like a rental while you can. Especially if you're going to sell it.
Ride your bike twice a week to make up the mileage...
I've had plenty of opportunity to (legally!) test its abilities in autocross. Now I'm done with that. Besides, it's a lot more relaxing to cruise in the slow lane than be subject to the misplaced testosterone and fast-slow-fast rubberbanding of the rest of the idiots on the road.
I personally think that's a rediculous comment. Some of us actually have to drive in life. I drive 30 min (est 40 miles) to work everyday each way on a highway and the nearest riding spot is about 40 miles also. And some people like to go on road trips on the weekends... $20 a gallon, your stupid. If gas was that expensive, our streets would be filled with more homeless and out economy would be in more of a crisis. Anyone who thinks gas should be that expensive should castrate themselves and never reproduce.
...Sorry I needed to vent.
You missed the point.I personally think that's a rediculous comment. Some of us actually have to drive in life. I drive 30 min (est 40 miles) to work everyday each way on a highway and the nearest riding spot is about 40 miles also. And some people like to go on road trips on the weekends... $20 a gallon, your stupid. If gas was that expensive, our streets would be filled with more homeless and out economy would be in more of a crisis. Anyone who thinks gas should be that expensive should castrate themselves and never reproduce.
Gas will likely see $20 a gallon. Maybe not tomorrow, maybe not in 10 years. But gas as we know it WILL hit $20 a gallon.
Now for a new idea:
If gas were $20 today, what, if anything would you do different?
Do yourself a favor and watch:
End of Suburbia
A Crude Awakening: The Oil Crash