I had no Idea you could be so romantic.
gas at $20/gallon
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it was a greyhound bus...
i'm pretty sure the guy was also just exaggerating his views a bit to piss off the ultra-liberal, hippy chick he was debating with. i commend him for his effort to annoy her, especially seeing as how she was so damn opinionated about everything and was adamant that she was right about everything.
Not an original idea, but:
I think gas should be $7 a gallon, the other $3-4 should go towards socialized car insurance.
I think gas should be $7 a gallon, the other $3-4 should go towards socialized car insurance.
i'm not completely on top of everything to do with insurance, so do you mind explaining what you think the benefit of that would be?
Liquor, cigarette & fast food taxes should pay for health care.
All put people in ****ty situations to begin with.
All put people in ****ty situations to begin with.
GAs taxes should all go to alternative fuel research.
i find it vexing that those who trust the government the least wish for more governmental control.
Governments are dynamic. Corporations, in a capitalist sense, are not.i find it vexing that those who trust the government the least wish for more governmental control.
That said, the American government is becoming nothing more than a puppet of corporations, hence the reason there will never be any real healthcare reform (replace healthcare with anything that won't make MNCs money) without massive change politically, socially, and economically.
I never want to pay socialized health care out of pocket. I don't drink, don't smoke, don't eat fast food.
Let the idiots who are killing themselves take care of the price of health care.
Let the idiots who are killing themselves take care of the price of health care.
Do you ride a mountain bike?
Since you live on/near the coast and theoretically are more vulnerable to invasion from a foreign country, you should really be picking up most of the tab for the military. Maybe you and the East Coast could split it up?
Yes, have not come close to killing myself, in fact I have improved my health tremendously.
Lost weight, gained muscle. Lower heart rate.
I don't like DH, feel too out of control.
Smoking does not even compare with mountain biking, nor does liquor related deaths and accidents.
After reading Fast food Nation & Omnivores Dilemma I doubt mountain biking even comes near the fast foods industry's death rate.
I suppose you are invulnerable to car accidents, being hit by a bus, being hit by lightning or simply tripping and falling down the stairs?
it's actually a pretty damn good comparison if you ask me.
Blue? I mean Cmon man, why does everyones pocket book need to suffer. Those taxes could pay most of the cost of health care.
Do you have a vendetta against the rich?
Do you have a vendetta against the rich?
I have no problem paying a little bit. I have a problem paying 60% of my income for it.
How is it a bad Idea to redirect those taxes?
How is it a bad Idea to redirect those taxes?
I'll say it again because I got ignored the first time around. Our system only works because we rely on cheap energy and unsustainable overconsumption. And it cannot last forever, because oil will get used up!
It's something we will have to face, in a few decades when gas is that expensive we'll be faced with a massive problem and "dude, I can't change my lifestyle" won't fly. It's worth debating, not brushing off just because toshi has an especially romantic view of the future.
It's something we will have to face, in a few decades when gas is that expensive we'll be faced with a massive problem and "dude, I can't change my lifestyle" won't fly. It's worth debating, not brushing off just because toshi has an especially romantic view of the future.
And yeah, we need a $20/gal wake-up call to change our ways.
I didn't say that at all. Don't put words in my mouth. T
You're aware that healthcare spending is currently 16% of the GDP?
You really think what you proposed will cover that?
Health care sucks, how did this thread start into health care anyway?
Black Noise, what viable alternative do you have?
Black Noise, what viable alternative do you have?
Increase the taxes. Look at the liquor tax in Canada.
So then smokers, drinkers and the obese should pay for your clumsiness?
I thought you were all about the free market? I uh...strongly...doubt even the revenues from all three sectors you proposed total 16% of the GDP, let alone free profit to raid from. Are you thinking logically here?
no, smoker drinker and obese should pay for their higher medical costs. They will be paying for each others. And as punishments for being dumb they will help pay for mine & yours.
Blue, I have an Idea, move to Canada.
Uhhh...are you looking at global statistics or something?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_the_United_States#_note-0
http://www.who.int/whr/2006/whr06_en.pdf
Yup, it's that simple. Just pack your stuff, show up at the border, and apply for residency and a work permit!
You really aren't too bright, are you?
Look whatever you guys. Think about this Blue, if you get out of college & make 60k a year and then have to pay over 35k a year in healthcare how much do you have to live on?
25k, poverty line in my area.
Why would you wish tat on anyone? My parents can't afford that. They are helping me & my sister through college. They have a morgage & car payments.
How can you ask that?
WE only payed 15k for health care last year. It hurt more than ever, but paying close 60k? My family won't survive.
25k, poverty line in my area.
Why would you wish tat on anyone? My parents can't afford that. They are helping me & my sister through college. They have a morgage & car payments.
How can you ask that?
WE only payed 15k for health care last year. It hurt more than ever, but paying close 60k? My family won't survive.
Because you live in a gated community and have no sense of reality.
are you talking about how people in sweden pay a decent chunk of their income to the government?
with that the government provides education(up to a college degree i believe), housing, and healthcare to everyone.
Being white gives you a pass to immigrate freely, apparently
woah. I live in walnut Creek, not Diablo.
A. You're not having enough fun
B. You're very young...that's easy. I gained 20lbs of muscle and lost 2% bodyfat in a summer to play college football (and no, I didn't do it illegally).
C. Damn. You're a well-read man.
I just had an epiphany. This argument will never matter ever. It's online.
Wow, I feel so much better.
BTW, just to let you all know. I am voting for Hillary.
No ****. The system is broken, costs are going up everywhere because it is a for profit system. Big Pharma has the same, lesser effect, on other nationalized healthcare systems.
To say you're going to pay for it with taxes on cigarettes, booze, and fast food is delusional. Everyone must pay, but without profit or an impetous for profit, costs will drastically decrease and your precious family unit won't pay 60% of their income towards taxes towards heathcare.
i thought you were all about guiliani?
or did the thought of hillary flashing her titties entice you to change your vote?
one of my friends said that event will probably be much like that time the nazis decided to open up the lost ark...
