[dante]

They can stick their dicks wherever they please and munch on all the carpet they want and I don't care, but marriage is, has been and always should be between a man and a woman. They want to get married thats fine. STOP BEING FAGS! Otherwise accept that a civil union is as good as it gets and eat a rainbow you goddamn crack smokin gypsies

you still haven't said how it affects you other than offending you. and as any good red-blooded conservative will tell you, there's no right in the constitution or bill of rights not to be offended. so, how does it affect you?

 

[Old Man G Funk]

They can stick their dicks wherever they please and munch on all the carpet they want and I don't care, but marriage is, has been and always should be between a man and a woman. They want to get married thats fine. STOP BEING FAGS! Otherwise accept that a civil union is as good as it gets and eat a rainbow you goddamn crack smokin gypsies

A man and a woman? Um, perhaps you forgot about the fact that for most of history it was a man and many women? Besides, appeal to tradition is not a valid argument for denying rights.

 

[Old Man G Funk]

This is incorrect. Once you give a "minority" such legal standing, this sets a precedent. Why limit it to "two" in a marriage?

Once the govt. gives gays legal standing, then the ACLU can sue for things like Affirmative action, where some companies would be required to hire a certain number of "gay" employees. Etc. The NFL just got in trouble for not having enough black coaches, what's next, not enough gay coaches? Not enough pictures of Gay couples in kids textbooks?

Crap just gets out of hand once you legitimize oddities.

This is just the slippery slope fallacy. All slopes, however, are slippery.

 

[Old Man G Funk]

I’ve also said from the Bibles point of view is that everyone is a sinner…….being a human means that we sin. So I’m not singling homosexuals out.

For our actions, not for things we can't control, like eye color, skin color, or being gay.

Obviously this point of view would not be authoritative to someone who didn’t acknowledge it as such, nor am I attempting to try to enforce a particular set of morals on others that don’t acknowledge them.

But, I assume that there are gays that are religious. You are enforcing your morals on them when you pass judgement.

As humans we all sin, I can’t change that, I am just as “condemned” for the addiction I’ve struggled with (porn), as a homosexual, as the Enron dudes who stole all that money……etc.

Pron is good.
Your "addiction" is due to your actions, however, not who you are.

Let’s say I couldn’t marry the woman I find attractive due to some Biblical reason (again keeping the discussion within framework which not all may agree with or accept and that’s fine) I can choose to a) marry her and sin or b) not marry her. The human I am enjoys getting sexual gratification from watching pornographic videos…..it’s who I am, which according to Matthew 5 Jesus equates this to adultery. So as a Christian I can either live by those teachings that I’ve chosen to orient my life around or not.

But, what if the Bible said that you couldn't marry ANYONE you find attractive, or even have physical relations with ANYONE you find attractive?

As for do I see a problem with this (labeling homosexuality a sin), actually yes, just like I have a problem with loving those who hate me, being generous when I don’t feel like it, and not indulging my every lustful impulse.

Wait, you seem to be saying that you find it a personal failing of your own to label homosexuality a sin? If you have a problem with it, change it. It's much easier to change that than to make yourself more charitable with someone who angers you.

Please note: I’ve actually tried to engage in a discuss on this rather than the often coined “cop out” of “I didn’t make the rules God did….”.

No, you have tried to "cop out" and I haven't meant to accuse you of that. I asked you because I didn't think you would cop out. Thank you for your honesty. I know it was probably hard to talk about your own shortcomings and took courage.

Anyway…………feel free to blast away………..

The intent is not to "blast away." Sorry if you feel that I'm attacking you.

 

[Changleen]

They can stick their dicks wherever they please and munch on all the carpet they want and I don't care, but marriage is, has been and always should be between a man and a woman. They want to get married thats fine. STOP BEING FAGS! Otherwise accept that a civil union is as good as it gets and eat a rainbow you goddamn crack smokin gypsies

Are you married?

 

[The Amish]

Are you married?

Nah buddy, too many flavors to settle for just one.