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Gemini Bling!

holliswood

Monkey
Mar 16, 2004
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University Place
I just finished my new ride for 05'. Check it out!

Here is the build list:
05' Gemini frame with Swinger 6 way and RCS ti-spring
05' Boxxer team with Romic crown/stem combo
Azonic B-52bars
ODI lock ons
FSA headseat
Shimano XT levers with Goodridge lines to Saint calipers
Galfer rotors
Saint cranks
E-thirteen SRS guide with Gemini backplate and E-thirteen 40t ring
Azonic A-frame pedals (the A frame lites are on the way)
Azonic post
Selle Italia Flite Gel with ti rails
Shimano Ultegra rear der.
Shimano Dura Ace chain
Shimano Dura Ace rear cassette
Ringle' 36 hole front and rear hubs laced to Sun Single Wides with Stans No Tubes on Maxxis 2.5 Slow Reezay High Rollers
As it sits the bike is 39 pounds on the nuts. It feels even more snappier than my Gemini from last year! Stoked to go ride tomorrow!
Thanks to everyone who helped out:
B.P. at Cannondale, Michael at E-thirteen, Chris at Azonic, E' at Maxxis, and the guys at Old Town Bicycle.
 

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holliswood

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Mar 16, 2004
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University Place
MikeD said:
Nice ride...lots of us on Geminis this year!

MD
Thanks MD. Yeah I saw all you guys posting up your Gemini's and I was bumming cause I was still waiting on a few parts. We are going to have alot of people on them out here in the PNW too.
Didn't you sell yours because it was too small though?
 
May 24, 2002
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Boulder CO
Too bad somebody doesn't go off and make a solid axle for the main pivot alla Cedric's bike. Their wussy hollow setup lets the swingarm flex like crazy....
 

lovebunny

can i lick your balls?
Dec 14, 2003
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holliswood said:
Thanks MD. Yeah I saw all you guys posting up your Gemini's and I was bumming cause I was still waiting on a few parts. We are going to have alot of people on them out here in the PNW too.
Didn't you sell yours because it was too small though?
yeah he is but he got a brand new large for 1000 if im not mistaken
 

MikeD

Leader and Demogogue of the Ridemonkey Satinists
Oct 26, 2001
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holliswood said:
Thanks MD. Yeah I saw all you guys posting up your Gemini's and I was bumming cause I was still waiting on a few parts. We are going to have alot of people on them out here in the PNW too.
Didn't you sell yours because it was too small though?
I'm selling the Medium frame I got originally, but I bought a Large to replace it. In this funky color, too. Only had a chance to ride it, pretty tamely, once though...

 

holliswood

Monkey
Mar 16, 2004
558
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University Place
MikeD said:
I'm selling the Medium frame I got originally, but I bought a Large to replace it. In this funky color, too. Only had a chance to ride it, pretty tamely, once though...

So you were one of the guys who got those. I really kind of dig that green! I like the fact that it's different from all the rest! :thumb:
Ride on Bro!
 

holliswood

Monkey
Mar 16, 2004
558
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University Place
ChainWhip said:
Great build K!

I see you got a romic crown after all ;)

MikeD - that green appeals to me in a deep, down, funny sort of way...

:D
Yeah, I ended up buying the Romic after all to bring my cockpit to where I wanted it. Rock shox said they may not have the 05' flat crowns until late may, so the romic was the better choice. I figured I would just buy one rather than borrow since I am going to keep it on. Thanks for offering yours up though!
 

biker3

Turbo Monkey
neversummersnow said:
Too bad somebody doesn't go off and make a solid axle for the main pivot alla Cedric's bike. Their wussy hollow setup lets the swingarm flex like crazy....
Flex? How come no mention of that in your review? I only weigh 140ibs but my DH is by FAR the stiffest rear end i've ever ridden. But i guess ive never really ridden a mono pivot thing with a swinglink.
 

BMXman

I wish I was Canadian
Sep 8, 2001
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for some reason with mine I have to unscrew both bolts on the rear dropout derailleur side to fit the thru-axle in. Any one else having this issue?....D
 

MikeD

Leader and Demogogue of the Ridemonkey Satinists
Oct 26, 2001
11,737
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BMXman said:
for some reason with mine I have to unscrew both bolts on the rear dropout derailleur side to fit the thru-axle in. Any one else having this issue?....D
yep.

Figure it might just wear in over time.
 

biker3

Turbo Monkey
BMXman said:
cool now I don't feel completely lame...I was about 15 seconds from tossing out the window:D
DONT you gotta keep it. I want to hear how you compare it to the 100000 other bikes you've piloted.

BTW owner of the bike in the thread how did u get it down so light with that build? I have mostly the same stuff with carbon bars, thomson post and Easton stem and mine liek 43ibs? I got XTs externals, new cassette and a i beam system on the way it hsould drop the weight considerably but I dono about 39ibs....
 
May 24, 2002
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Boulder CO
Couple of things.

First, if you want to sere the flex I'm talking about tip the bike over at a 45 degree angle and press your foot on the pedal, you'll notice it flexes considerably when you do this. Not that it is unbelievable or will prevent you from doing well, but when you weigh a lot and try to ride fast it's not exactly inspiring. If you look at Cedric's bike, he's got like a steel concrete bolt clamping his swingarm to the mainframe. It may also be a little larger in diameter. The wheel/swingarm interface is very stiff IMO, the weak link is certainly the pivot interface...look at the orange, they recognized this problem and have an entirely different setup to address it.

Also, the weight of this bike at 39 is very accurate as well....so whoever is wondering how to drop weight just look at the build kit...NOTICE-TI spring and STANS in light wheels...

Not saying it's a bad bike at all, just something you should all be aware of...not even an issue if you're lighter anyway...
 

biker3

Turbo Monkey
neversummersnow said:
Couple of things.

First, if you want to sere the flex I'm talking about tip the bike over at a 45 degree angle and press your foot on the pedal, you'll notice it flexes considerably when you do this. Not that it is unbelievable or will prevent you from doing well, but when you weigh a lot and try to ride fast it's not exactly inspiring. If you look at Cedric's bike, he's got like a steel concrete bolt clamping his swingarm to the mainframe. It may also be a little larger in diameter. The wheel/swingarm interface is very stiff IMO, the weak link is certainly the pivot interface...look at the orange, they recognized this problem and have an entirely different setup to address it.

Also, the weight of this bike at 39 is very accurate as well....so whoever is wondering how to drop weight just look at the build kit...NOTICE-TI spring and STANS in light wheels...

Not saying it's a bad bike at all, just something you should all be aware of...not even an issue if you're lighter anyway...
I see.. I just dont get where all the weight on my bike is coming from, I know the stock husselfelts and gigapipe BB are a lot of that, Is my Abbah/729 combo really that heavy? Would stan's be a better choice to help drop some weight?
 
May 24, 2002
889
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Boulder CO
Yeah, you can save a good deal on your cranks...go old XTR or Middleburn, followed by STANS...it's a pain but very noticeable weight drop. Last would be the ti spring...1/4-1/2 lbs.

However, in the end I still say I'm faster on a clapped out heavier bike that is a workhours than a fairy like race bike...its just a number...HIT THE GYM!!!
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
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neversummersnow said:
Yeah, you can save a good deal on your cranks...go old XTR or Middleburn, followed by STANS...it's a pain but very noticeable weight drop. Last would be the ti spring...1/4-1/2 lbs.

However, in the end I still say I'm faster on a clapped out heavier bike that is a workhours than a fairy like race bike...its just a number...HIT THE GYM!!!
I'd suggest the XTs, they are only 60g heavier than XTR, a good deal stiffer than XTR, and far stiffer than middleburn. The new integrated XTs happen to be a very good product, stiffer cranks for a lower price (than xtr) at a slight weight penalty seems to be a good combination for most riding regimes.
 

holliswood

Monkey
Mar 16, 2004
558
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University Place
neversummersnow said:
Yeah, you can save a good deal on your cranks...go old XTR or Middleburn, followed by STANS...it's a pain but very noticeable weight drop. Last would be the ti spring...1/4-1/2 lbs.

However, in the end I still say I'm faster on a clapped out heavier bike that is a workhours than a fairy like race bike...its just a number...HIT THE GYM!!!
I agree.

It seems there are too many guys worried about weight and they don't take into mind reliability or even the type of riding they do or the kind of rider they are. When I built this bike I was not trying to hit a certain weight, I was trying to build the best bike for me and the way I ride. I weigh 200 pounds with full gear and I can tell you having a light bike isn't always the best way to go. So biker3 stop listening to everyone blow smoke and do what you want to do. If you want to make your bike lighter, spend some coin and you can do it! neversummersnow had some good ideas, you just need to try some different things. I had alot of help from the companies I ride for wich made it easy to put this bike together.