FTMFW!
Before I go back to my popcorn and deckchair, I don't think anyone said this explicitly so I will:
They already do handle well. and with a decent rider go a fair bit faster than DH bikes generally do.
This!
my roadbike is a large or 56 with a 90 mm stem, I'm 179 cm and half of that is my inseam. I feel quite comfortable on it and wouldn't want a slacker HA in flat but fast turns. Also, I don't think it's HA alone, trail is the magic figure that adds to the equation. Tony Foale had a good article on his experiments with, behold, 90° HA motorcycles. They were awesome to ride, in certain circumstances. He is rebuilding his website atm and hasn't put all stuff up yet. Here is an excerpt. Good read.Commuters are changing now. You're my age so don't pretend you're 50. Fixies stopped being fashionable like 5 years ago. People still use them but now every company has a commuter road bike with flat bars and disc brakes. It's a reasonably big new market next to bikepacking and resurgence of cx
Son I live in the burbs.
Why would you do that to yourself?
I used to live in LA. I've had enough of cities.
There are other cities that actually work like cities instead of being random building diarrhea. You know with public transport and some walkability. LA always seemed a bit like a suburb in many areas . That's why I still didn't try to look for jurbs there.
Maybe my job / field isn't predominantly located in a city.
I thought you were in plastics not a soccer teacher. Plastics companies are in those shit suburban business centers?
I work in the medical device industry....
EDIT: that post deserves to be right in the "This is what is wrong with The Industry ™" thread!!!
No bad feelings here though since I'm starting to feel you think I'm taking this too far and one more post and you will suggest I use one of those medical devices on myself.
i'm just confused as to why you can't grasp the concept that not everyone wants to live in a city.
Naah I can. Just some friendly ribbing. Nothing I've said was meant to be taken very seriously. I lived in the burbs half my life. As long as it's close to a forest where I can ride my bike that's a sweet deal in my book
i've got two sets of (mediocre) trails within 10 minutes of my house.
That's why I'm procrastinating. I may even have something good on my table but after reading crazy evangelical religious propaganda scripts my brain needs a rest. There are only so many movies where TV's Hercules plays an evil atheist I can take. How i wish I had something like "Room" or "Hereditary" again but in the offseason it's mostly crazy people.i've got two sets of (mediocre) trails within 10 minutes of my house.
shouldn't you be reading some terrible scripts?
The UCI absolutely has jurisdiction for what road bike designs can be in their race events, and they enforce it rigidly. Since the non-UCI affiliated road racing scene is tiny, and for all practical (read: marketing) purposes non-existant, brands will continue to offer UCI-compliant designs, because that's what Joe and Jane roadie see on the TV and want to buy. This brings the problem with road racing sponsorship into clear view- anyone can go ride a bike on the road, and anyone can watch the Tour de Steroids and think "I wouldn't be as fast as those guys, but I would love to ride those bikes in that countryside." This principle (not even a delusion, since it's actually possible) is what sells a ton of bikes, especially those high-zoot carbon Di2 models that no one outside of the pro ranks will ever put to proper use and nicely pad bike maker's bottom lines. So economically they have no good reason to deviate from the UCI's rules, because the races and pros who follow the rules sell the bikes.
Some people wanna go fast or have a good bike without giving a shit about racing. No different than buying an expensive MTB. They just want a reliable, fun, efficient, or lightweight bike. Bikes are not all about racing... maybe to some, but to others, its just about having fun. You can have fun on a cheaper $500 HT, but you can sure as hell have moar on a $3000 bike made to handle more abuse. Or the $200 road bike a Wally world wont hold a candle to @Gary's bike. Just because you don't race, doesn't mean you don't want a good bike.
