[flatulant_man]

I live in Boulder, CO, where everybody is liberal. All i hear is conspiracy theories and bull**** about invading iraq for the money. i don't know a single person who agrees with me in supporting bush, and i just want to make sure i'm not the only republican in the world. anyone want to agree with me?

please, no political ridicule from democrats, i'm seriously trying to get away from that.

 

[Slugman]

Just read any post by N8 and you'll feel better...

 

[chicodude]

i have no political affiliation. i think political parties are retarded.

















And i still think "Dubya" Is a dumbass

 

[Silver]

please, no political ridicule from democrats, i'm seriously trying to get away from that.

Maybe you should have considered not posting in a "Political Debate" forum?

 

[N8 v2.0]

I hear ya Bro!



I'm to the point now that I want him to win just to piss off all those pushy liberals*..






*That and a Kerry presidency would be a totaly disaster to the US's security.

 

[Lexx D]

That and a Kerry presidency would be a totaly disaster to the US's security.

It's true look at all the good Bushy has done for.......... why can't I think of anything.

 

[N8 v2.0]

It's true look at all the good Bushy has done for.......... why can't I think of anything.

..yeah... aside for the fact that there has been no repeat of 9/11 as Al_Q has been planning and attempting...

 

[Lexx D]

I think J. Kerry could do just as good a job of announcing we're on "yellow alert" or red or whatever.
The lack of a second 9/11 is because of the police and higher levels of security which anyone with a brain could have told you we needed.
Yea bushy was sitting around the white house after 9/11 thinking "what ever will we do" "That's it we'll increase the amount of police on patrol and raise security in places that the enemy would want to attack" as everyone sat around "good idea boss why didn't we think of that" yea pure genious.

 

[fluff]

..yeah... aside for the fact that there has been no repeat of 9/11 as Al_Q has been planning and attempting...

Have they? What's your source?

 

[Westy]

..yeah... aside for the fact that there has been no repeat of 9/11 as Al_Q has been planning and attempting...

Just like the bear patrol kept the bears away from Springfield.

 

[SDH]

Actually.............it is the stuff that you don't see that stems off terrorism and not the stuff you do see. The stuff you see is only meant to boost public confidence. The real work is done behind the scenes.

Bottom line: If a dude is willing to die there is not a thing the 15 cops on the bridge can do about except die with him!
Now if you have the proper intel to choke this dudes means of pulling it off or capture him before he does it that is the way to stop the act!

 

[biggins]

george bush SUCKS!

 

[fuzzynutz]

What about the fact that Bush basically told the rest of the world to F**k Off, and we wouldn't need anyones help to invade Iraq(for no REAL reason). Now our list of allies has shrunk like a penis in cold water, and the next time there is a REAL threat to our country no one is going to take us seriously. YEA Bush did a great job

 

[N8 v2.0]

GW KICKS ASS!!!

I like the the fact that Bush basically told the rest of the world to F**k Off and let's the US protect it's own interests above all else.

 

[fuzzynutz]

protect our own interests while destroying the rest of the world. sweet!

 

[N8 v2.0]

protect our own interests while destroying the rest of the world. sweet!

Like, you'd better get off the couch and go visit Europe ASAP before it's gone!!!

 

[fuzzynutz]

I've already been

and I'm not on a couch, I'm in a chair

 

[w00dy]

let's the US protect it's own interests above all else.

I'm not all that interested in an oil-filled desert.

 

[fluff]

GW KICKS ASS!!!

I like the the fact that Bush basically told the rest of the world to F**k Off and let's the US protect it's own interests above all else.

Yeah, but you're a moron. Just like Bush.

 

[genpowell71]

Like, you'd better get off the couch and go visit Europe ASAP before it's gone!!!

Trust me, I lived in Europe for 2 years with the army. We can do without our "good buddies" the germans. The average German person doesnt like the US anyway. Aside from the beer and guns, what else do they have to offer?

I can tell you this much, if we leave Germany, the German government stands to loose about 5 billion dollars (US) a year from us. Wonder what that'll do for their economy? Oh yeah, thats right. Who cares.

 

[N8 v2.0]

Yeah, but you're a moron. Just like Bush.

You're the moron...

 

[genpowell71]

Yeah, but you're a moron. Just like Bush.

Look out for this guy and his rapier wit!!!!

See, there you have a perfect example of a person who has country envy. He wishes he was american, but he cant be. He's British and is stuck there. Your just mad because, in addition to German bases, we'll be closing both the airforce bases there in England. So therefore you British blokes are going to lose alot of money also.

It's ok to want to be American, the whole world wants to be
:nuts:

 

[fluff]

Oops, my mistake. I thought this was a humourous thread!

 

[N8 v2.0]

Oops, my mistake. I thought this was a humourous thread!

Arnold..? Arnold Rimmer...??? Is that you?


:devil:

 

[Slugman]

I like the the fact that Bush basically told the rest of the world to F**k Off and let's the US protect it's own interests above all else.

Oh yeah... that's going to make the US and it's citizens safer. Great strategy, now we're all target when we go abroad, the terrorist have more propaganda to recruit with, and the number of nations willing to help us has dropped...

There is a reason why we are known abroad as "The Ugly Americans".

I guess it’s OK if you don’t want to travel anywhere outside the US, Canada or Mexico.

 

[N8 v2.0]

Oh yeah... that's going to make the US and it's citizens safer. Great strategy, now we're all target when we go abroad, the terrorist have more propaganda to recruit with, and the number of nations willing to help us has dropped...

There is a reason why we are known abroad as "The Ugly Americans".

I guess it’s OK if you don’t want to travel anywhere outside the US, Canada or Mexico.

So are you saying that doing nothing is safer? Did the terrorists like the US better in the 90's than they do now?

All that got us was an attempted World Trade Center bombing, then finally a sucessful attack on Sept 11th.

We've taken the fight to our opponents, fighting it out on our enemy's soil. We done a lot to tighten our borders and crack down on groups within or attempting to get into the US.

All this is great.

Oh, yeah, US citizens are abducted and killed at a rate much higher than any other time in recent years*...


*Except in the middle east

 

[flatulant_man]

thanks for the feedback, people. even the liberals. despite the fact that i said no criticism.

N8, i like the way you think, and thanks to everybody.

 

[LordOpie]

thanks for the feedback, people. even the liberals. despite the fact that i said no criticism.

N8, i like the way you think, and thanks to everybody.

Hey, I heard you found Kevin's body.

 

[biggins]

thanks for the feedback, people. even the liberals. despite the fact that i said no criticism.

N8, i like the way you think, and thanks to everybody.

it is assumed that when posting in a political debate a political debate thread that there will be criticism especially when the thread is titled has george bush's name in it. and especially when posting an opinion about him.

 

[Slugman]

So are you saying that doing nothing is safer? Did the terrorists like the US better in the 90's than they do now?

NO... I'm saying that going in solo without other POWERFUL nations to back us up makes us look like lunatic cowboys that think they are above the law, especially when the premise for out invasion turns out to be false.

All that got us was an attempted World Trade Center bombing, then finally a sucessful attack on Sept 11th.

We were taking actions before... but there was a careful evaluation of the risk!

We've taken the fight to our opponents, fighting it out on our enemy's soil.

And killed many civilians in the process, which has led to the acceptance of more negative views of the US. Yeah, there were always groups that hated us and preached our demise... but now they are more accepted and more popular. We're losing the war for the hearts and minds of the people. Just look at our former allies the Shiite’s; they are the ones we were there to help... now they denounce us!

We done a lot to tighten our borders and crack down on groups within or attempting to get into the US.

Really... let me ask you how much Cocaine and Heroin is produced in the USA? Because I was under the impression that most of it was smuggled in, and I have not heard any reports that the drug trade has been STOPPED by our great border security. And the smuggling of illegal immigrants has stopped as well? WONDERFUL! Yeah, we catch a couple 'known' people of interest... but who else is here? And what have they been able to bring in?

It seems to me (don't have the figures) that we put more money into attacking another nation that was not a serious threat to the USA than we spend on improving and protecting US citizens. And even if that is not true, think of how much better our border patrols, police, feds, etc. could be with the Billions we're spending on a the war.

Oh, yeah, US citizens are abducted and killed at a rate much higher than any other time in recent years*...


*Except in the middle east

Because most of the US citizens have left the middle east... but what is going to happen when the terrorist start to think outside the box/ region. Southeast Asia is a Muslin hotspot. The UK, France, and North Africa all have a huge Islamic presence.

Reports have said that the plans for Sept. 11 took almost 10 years... the terrorist are patient enough to wait out the war. If we have not won the hearts and minds of the people, when it does end the terrorist will come out of hiding and have more people willing to join them.

All this misguided effort now will only hurt us in the future. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – I’ve never had anyone change my opinion by kicking my ass.

thanks for the feedback, people. even the liberals. despite the fact that i said no criticism.

LOL - I really hope you didn't actually expect that to happen...

N8, i like the way you think, and thanks to everybody.

Also watch for BurlySurly and RhinofromWA

 

[Silver]

thanks for the feedback, people. even the liberals. despite the fact that i said no criticism.

N8, i like the way you think, and thanks to everybody.

I thought I pointed out earlier that you posted in a DEBATE forum.

If you want to jerk off with N8, do it in a PM. It's not polite to do it in front of the rest of us.

 

[golgiaparatus]

I have no party affiliation at all... like I have said before, I supported bush after he was elected. I did vote for Gore, but only because I didnt respect the way he got where he is today. Anyway, I supported him because he was the new pres of the USA. However, when he started spewing axis of evil garbage I started losing respect for him as an inteligent man. ANd when he went on and brushed off the UN basically saying fuhQ, I didnt like that either. I think he is a frikkin lose cannon wannabe coubouy daddy's boy... but thats after 4 years of watching him screw up left and right.

Anyway, you and N8 need to go have a conversation, you'll get along great.
Like a couple of blind peas in a pod.

 

[golgiaparatus]

That and a Kerry presidency would be a totaly disaster to the US's security.

Says who... Bush?

WHy is it that when any hard core Bush supporter is asked... "why are you going to vote for a complete idiot?" they say more or less what Bush has told them to think.

Take a few steps back away from GW's ass and look at the mess he has made, and he's proud of it

GW is a :nuts: to the US.

 

[Toshi]

here is my contribution to this thread, sparked by seeing a buttload of bush attack ads on kerry's intelligence record last night during olympics coverage:

http://blog.johnkerry.com/rapidresponse/archives/002455.html#more

Ad Text: “In the year after the first terrorist attack on the World Trade Center, Kerry was absent for every single one.”

Fuzzy Math Again:
Again, the Bush-Cheney Campaign is using misleading numbers and cannot pretend to have the facts. They rely only on whether Sen. Kerry made statements in one of seven open hearings. All in all, during the 103rd Congress, the Committee held a total of 103 on-the-record meetings and hearings. There were seventy (70) oversight hearings and seven (7) business meetings. Twelve (12) hearings were held on the budget including the Conference sessions with the House. Hearings on specific legislation totaled nine (9) and nomination hearings totaled one (1). [Senate Report 104-1: Oversight Over Intelligence Activities in the 103rd Congress].

The following Republican members also failed to speak at a public hearing that year: John Chaffee; Malcom Wallop, Ted Stevens, Slade Gorton, John Danforth

 

[s1ngletrack]

Yeah man - what were you thinking siding with Bush, can't you see that all of the cool kids (and the big bands - Incubus, etc...) are knocking him? After 9/11 - everyone was screaming for vengeance, now we want some blue blood puss to give us "more sensitive war" on terror - Kerry is certainly the answer in this black / white issue.

 

[Toshi]

Yeah man - what were you thinking siding with Bush, can't you see that all of the cool kids (and the big bands - Incubus, etc...) are knocking him? After 9/11 - everyone was screaming for vengeance, now we want some blue blood puss to give us "more sensitive war" on terror - Kerry is certainly the answer in this black / white issue.

i wasn't screaming for vengeance, and neither were many americans. at least many of my friends.

furthermore has it crossed your mind that IRAQ IS NOT RELATED TO 9/11? hello?

 

[Westy]

Yeah man - what were you thinking siding with Bush, can't you see that all of the cool kids (and the big bands - Incubus, etc...) are knocking him? After 9/11 - everyone was screaming for vengeance, now we want some blue blood puss to give us "more sensitive war" on terror - Kerry is certainly the answer in this black / white issue.

Not sure if you were being sarcastic or not. Either way I don't know of one major issue in life that is black and white. If you think there is one you are doing nothing but simplifying issues so you don't have to think hard about them.

Edit: not referring to s1ngltrack here, just folks who think this is a binary world.

 

[golgiaparatus]

Reports have said that the plans for Sept. 11 took almost 10 years... the terrorist are patient enough to wait out the war. If we have not won the hearts and minds of the people, when it does end the terrorist will come out of hiding and have more people willing to join them.

All this misguided effort now will only hurt us in the future. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – I’ve never had anyone change my opinion by kicking my ass.

Phucking A... EXACTLY.

 

[s1ngletrack]

Yeah - it's crossed my mind, and no I don't trust Bush, but I do trust him much more than I trust Kerry. I agree it's a mess over there, I just don't believe that falling into line behind those swaying popular opinion is the answer - as for what the answer is - your guess is as good as mine

 

[s1ngletrack]

Not sure if you were being sarcastic or not. Either way I don't know of one major issue in life that is black and white. If you think there is one you are doing nothing but simplifying issues so you don't have to think hard about them.

Edit: not referring to s1ngltrack here, just folks who think this is a binary world.

Yeah - I was being sarcastic, nothing is black or white.