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esr

Monkey
Nov 12, 2001
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ontario,canada
I have been doing alot of searching to find out some info on the faith frame.

I deffenlty think this will be my race bike/trail bike next year.

Does anyone know if I can purchase the frame alone.

And by slim chance has anyone got there hands on the Fatih frame and tossed it on a scale. I figured out the parts groupo weight and minused that from the apprent total bike weight but there is know way that frame comes in at 7 pounds and if it does gitty up 33 pound race bike.
 
Jm_

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
20,517
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esr said:
I have been doing alot of searching to find out some info on the faith frame.

I deffenlty think this will be my race bike/trail bike next year.

Does anyone know if I can purchase the frame alone.

And by slim chance has anyone got there hands on the Fatih frame and tossed it on a scale. I figured out the parts groupo weight and minused that from the apprent total bike weight but there is know way that frame comes in at 7 pounds and if it does gitty up 33 pound race bike.
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the first bikes should be available around new years.
 
Bulldog

Bulldog

Turbo Monkey
Sep 11, 2001
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Wisconsin
esr said:
I figured out the parts groupo weight and minused that from the apprent total bike weight but there is know way that frame comes in at 7 pounds and if it does gitty up 33 pound race bike.
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Excessive optimism rules unchecked in the bike world. Error/misrepresentation is common. The "par for the course" for a frame and shock on a big bike like that these days is anywhere from 10-13 pounds.
 
Jm_

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
20,517
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Bulldog said:
Excessive optimism rules unchecked in the bike world. Error/misrepresentation is common. The "par for the course" for a frame and shock on a big bike like that these days is anywhere from 10-13 pounds.
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Yep. I had a customer interested in those bikes yesterday. I told him it probably weighs around 40lbs. I'm not going to BS them on some rediculous weight, there's simply no way a frame that beefy weighs under 10lbs, there's no way with that fork and those wheels/tires that it weighs under 40. Can't change the laws of physics!
 
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deelux 247

Chimp
May 10, 2004
53
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Sherwood, Oregon
Not sure about the weight on the complete bike or frame but I know that the y are going to be offering the frame seperate. My buddy is thinking about getting one and we are just waiting to try one out before he finally decides.
Hope that helps.
 
erikkellison

erikkellison

Monkey
Jan 28, 2004
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Denver, CO
JM,
I'm kinda confused, because my bullit is slightly over 8lbs w/ shock, and that thing is minimum 10? I think it's less, but who knows. I just can't imagine it being that heavy since it really doesn't look it.
Oh, and does anyone else think that the linkage on that looks like an upside down ASX?
 
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deelux 247

Chimp
May 10, 2004
53
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Sherwood, Oregon
If you take a closer look the linkage its actually closer to a vpp design then a single pivot design like the asx. I would guess that the weight of the frame is probably around the 8-10 lb range. I doubt that it is any heavier than 10lbs though.
 
Jm_

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
20,517
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erikkellison said:
JM,
I'm kinda confused, because my bullit is slightly over 8lbs w/ shock, and that thing is minimum 10? I think it's less, but who knows. I just can't imagine it being that heavy since it really doesn't look it.
Oh, and does anyone else think that the linkage on that looks like an upside down ASX?
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your bullit is over 9lbs, unless it's like the XS with a fox rear shock. Regular-sized bullits with 5th elements are over 9lbs.
 
Jm_

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
20,517
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deelux 247 said:
If you take a closer look the linkage its actually closer to a vpp design then a single pivot design like the asx. I would guess that the weight of the frame is probably around the 8-10 lb range. I doubt that it is any heavier than 10lbs though.
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Actually it's more like the Iron Horse Sunday/7.5.

If it's 8lbs I'm jesus christ.
 
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deelux 247

Chimp
May 10, 2004
53
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Sherwood, Oregon
Actually if you look at the rear wheel path it is a lot closer to the vpp design than the ih sunday. The only reason it looks like it is similar to the ih sunday is because the lower pivot is above the bb instead of behind the bb.
 
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dw

Wiffle Ball ninja
Sep 10, 2001
2,943
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MV
deelux 247 said:
Actually if you look at the rear wheel path it is a lot closer to the vpp design than the ih sunday. The only reason it looks like it is similar to the ih sunday is because the lower pivot is above the bb instead of behind the bb.
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That is an incorrect analysis.

Dave
 
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Red Bull

Turbo Monkey
Oct 22, 2004
1,772
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970
color
Putty Gray

size
16", 17", 19"

frame
ALUXX SL aluminum

fork
Fox DHX 4.0 Coil

derailleur
Front: Shimano LX Rear: Shimano XT

derailleurshifters
Shimano XT

cassette
SRAM PG970 11-34T, 9 speed

cranks
Race Face Diablous X-Type 22/32T/

pedals
Easton Flatboy

handlebar
Race Face Evolve FR 31.8 Riser

stem
Race Face Evolve FR 31.8

headset
FSA Pig DH Pro

brakes
Hayes HFX-9 HD, 8" rotor,l hydraulic

levers
Hayes

saddle
WTB Lazer V

seatpost
Race Face Atlas AM 350x30.9

rims
Mavic EX729

hubs
Formula thru axle disc front and rear

tires
Kenda Blue Groove front/Nevagal rear w/Stick-e Rubber 26 x 2.5"

spokes
DT Competition 14/15G


Jeez, i didnt know that fox was making DHX 4.0 forks now :rolleyes:
 
Jm_

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
20,517
11,004
AK
One thing about the parts spec, there's the Fall 04 giants, and then the 05 giants. The fall 04 includes the reign, faith, and trance, but the parts spects will be a little different, at least they will be different for 05 than what our fall 04 dealer information says. So which will you get if you order it? I don't know, sorry.
 
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