too much faith on those dainese-wearing fatty dudes who play "foot"ball with the hands....BurlyShirley said:Some of those hits were impressive, but only because they werent wearing pads. The biggest hits Ive seen in the NFL make those look pretty regular. Id like to see what would happen if we lined up our NFL guys against some of those jokers for a game though. Itd be nice to see Urlacher or Jerome Bettis or T.O. or Mike Alstott or Michael Strahan or Mike Brown completely destroy those little white boys.
I dunno. That happens somewhat often, Im searching right now for a similar montage of carnage to what was posted.ALEXIS_DH said:too much faith on those dainese-wearing fatty dudes who play "foot"ball with the hands....
hey, i remember an awesome nfl hit, where a dude came out flying like a ragdoll, doing circles, while horizontal, in the air.. like 5 or 6 years ago..
who was that????
That's as silly as saying there are no Rugby players that could handle the NFL. A guy with the speed, size and strength such as Shawn Alexander would be, with a minimal of instruction, one of the best rugby players in the world. Or a total genetic freak like Julius Peppers. 290lbs, 6'9" and 4.5 speed. Or how about 36 reps with 235lbs on the bench?Ciaran said:BS, American football players would crumple like paper dolls. Those rugby players are as big as many NFL players.
DRB said:That's as silly as saying there are no Rugby players that could handle the NFL. A guy with the speed, size and strength such as Shawn Alexander would be, with a minimal of instruction, one of the best rugby players in the world. Or a total genetic freak like Julius Peppers. 290lbs, 6'9" and 4.5 speed. Or how about 36 reps with 235lbs on the bench?
Getting into that kind of shape is not difficult for athletes of NFL caliber.Dog Welder said:Heres why NFL guys could never handle rugby. 2 ,40 minute halves with only two substitutions and a blood sub. That means running for almost 80 mintues straight for most players and no timeouts or more than one substitution based on injury. Its not because NFL players are bigger or faster. The conditioning required is completely different than football.
wait.. you are stepping now into the "they are not yet, but in a future they could" territory.....DRB said:Getting into that kind of shape is not difficult for athletes of NFL caliber.
They are pretty much amazing athletes capable of getting into whatever shape they want to is what he's saying.ALEXIS_DH said:wait.. you are stepping now into the "they are not yet, but in a future they could" territory.....
You wouldn't think so, but the trend in the NFL has been fewer pads lately. Almost no one uses kneepads any more, and I havent seen hip or spine pads in years.BurlyShirley said:I dont think "no pads" is really an option with the size/speed of NFL athletes.
Then the same is true of rugby players. There is no way a rugby player could step on to NFL field and expect to do anything but get killed.ALEXIS_DH said:wait.. you are stepping now into the "they are not yet, but in a future they could" territory.....
yeah, but is not honest in a discussion about "what something is" to say.. "with a little bit of this, or that, they could......".BurlyShirley said:They are pretty much amazing athletes capable of getting into whatever shape they want to is what he's saying.
But that's just taking things too far. The sports are not that dissimilar that a good enough athlete with minimal training wouldnt have it down pretty well, pretty quickly. I dont doubt that there are rugby players who could play in the NFL.ALEXIS_DH said:yeah, but is not honest in a discussion about "what something is" to say.. "with a little bit of this, or that, they could......".
its not about what they "could" be, but about what they "are". because then you could add COULDs to each side, until they are nothing short of achilles and zeus, with the certainty being subjetive.
i mean, once you cross that line... you could argue (with different degrees of certainty of course) "nascar drivers could take down an nfl player IF they put on some muscle, grew 1ft tall, etc...".
That's assine.ALEXIS_DH said:yeah, but is not honest in a discussion about "what something is" to say.. "with a little bit of this, or that, they could......".
its not about what they "could" be, but about what they "are". because then you could add COULDs to each side, until they are nothing short of achilles and zeus, with the certainty being subjetive.
i mean, once you cross that line... you could argue (with different degrees of certainty of course) "nascar drivers could take down an nfl player IF they put on some muscle, grew 1ft tall, etc...".
thats like saying that boxing sparring (with helmets and the chest thing) is more ferocious (since one guy hits non-stop another with stamina being the limiting factor) than a 20sec ufc fight where only a couple punches are enough.DRB said:That's assine.
But if you want what something is..... football is a much more violent game with a much higher level of ferocity in tackles and hits. The rules of rugby actually lessen the amount of violence in the sport. As for pads, more and more rugby players are resorting to lightweight pads under their jerseys and even soft helmets.
All I can say is that you must not watch either sport.ALEXIS_DH said:thats like saying that boxing sparring (with helmets and the chest thing) is more ferocious (since one guy hits non-stop another with stamina being the limiting factor) than a 20sec ufc fight where only a couple punches are enough.
You ever seen linemen? They are not exactly there because of their speed and agility.DRB said:That's as silly as saying there are no Rugby players that could handle the NFL. A guy with the speed, size and strength such as Shawn Alexander would be, with a minimal of instruction, one of the best rugby players in the world. Or a total genetic freak like Julius Peppers. 290lbs, 6'9" and 4.5 speed. Or how about 36 reps with 235lbs on the bench?