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Good brakes in 2022
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at least its not routed through the headset i guessToo late, the brakes on my Giant Revolt are like that and its from 2017 or something.
The levers are normal cable brakes, which go into this weird thing on the stem. The hydraulic hoses come out of that. For as weird of a setup it is, I've had zero issues with it and have never had to adjust or bleed anything. And the brakes work, the little 160mm rotors stop my fatass.
"race brakes"
There was this local weird trailbuilder who would underbike himself purposefully, then ride around some features on tracks he built. I bet he would love those."race brakes"
I just like the squeeky sound my brake lines make when they move inside the frame.
Dia Compe did it in the 90s and more recently the TRP road brakes had cable levers and a mini hydraulic piston at the caliper.Too late, the brakes on my Giant Revolt are like that and its from 2017 or something.
The levers are normal cable brakes, which go into this weird thing on the stem. The hydraulic hoses come out of that. For as weird of a setup it is, I've had zero issues with it and have never had to adjust or bleed anything. And the brakes work, the little 160mm rotors stop my fatass.
My first disc brakes were cable operated hydraulic from RockShox. That was like 1997 or something.
I still have one of those and the 3 bolt White Brothers hub. It came on a GT LTS 1000 with a Judy XL
These look like they could be good. I'll let someone else guinea pig them though.
I am quite intrigued by those, and considering the scale of production $600 NZ per brake is pretty damn reasonable given the Saints, Hopes and TRP DH Evo's are around $490 each.
looks like they're designed by someone who liked the idea of Hope brakes but wanted to try and improve on some of their shortcomings.
Really not a fan of massive long lever blades... seems pretty strange they're hidden in the pics
Really not a fan of massive long lever blades... seems pretty strange they're hidden in the pics
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A slight tangent. Any current gen brakes have pop out levers? I have creepy thin long fingers and this results in a fracture every 2 years when I get an unlucky OTB. The only levers that didn't do it too me were old old formula oros because they poped out. Any other brake does that?
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We had it pop out numerous times during bleeding, not holding slight vacuum while bleeding, etc.
I'm not sure what you mean.
What I'm trying to say is:
In my case, I cannot pull a slight vacuum in the caliper, without it sucking ambient air.
We had instances, where during pumping the oil from the lever to the caliper, the whole connector just popped off, spilling all the oil all over the workshop.
Fuck that.
theres a teeny tiny split ring that needs to snap into a groove in the bleed port. You should hear a very clean “snap” when it is fully inserted into the port.
I flexed mine out a bit to the point that it is actually kinda hard to remove the fitting from the calliper. I’d prefer that to having the issues you describe. I had them too… No longer.
just don’t lose it!
if you do, there’s always Ali Express…
Actually, not fully pop out but both Tech 3 and 4 Hope levers are spring loaded so they can swing slightly outwards without damage FWIW
The Hayes have that feature too. I didn’t realize that I need that feature until I didn’t have it. The Cura do not. They tear up my knuckles when I forget and go for a clicked table or tomahawk out the front door!
This sells me on the Hayes even more. I seriosly don't want to have horror fingers. M810 saints were working on getting me there.
This is probably the best thing sram has ever done. I'm not sure why you had issues, but it's (almost?) foolproof. No wrenches and hoses that need to be threaded on. It clicks and turns by hand. And doesn't just pop off like the Ole Hayes system used to. When you're done with it. It pops right out and there's no mess to clean up.
I'm a little late and haven't read the thread but here's my experience in the last couple years:
Most* Shimano brakes work great and the 4 pistons have great power. They usually* bleed easily and thoroughly. The cheapest model is functionally the same as the most expensive so great value. *Occassionally I see weird issues with the master and slave cylinders. Hopefully you don't get one of these duds. The odds are in your favor and warranty exists. I use Shimano 2 pistons on most of my MTBs and 4 pistons on my DH bike.
Sram: Very easy to perfectly bleed. The Code and Guide RSCs have great feel and the Codes have great power. They're what I use on heavy Sur-rons (w/220 rotors). The R models have something else different besides the of lack lever stroke adjustment because they have a longer stroke and usually also feel spongy.
My Trickstuff trail brakes feel almost perfect (lever shape, stroke, firmness. pivot placement keeps it from perfect), great weight and looks, almost great power, okay to bleed. I'm guessing the DH brakes follow suit. I don't know how you're supposed to get them, which makes the cost almost irrelevent. Mine came on a Scott Spark Ultimate.
Hope: I was disappointed in the power of the enduro E4. The DH V4 is supposed to have more power at the cost of a longer lever throw.
Magura: I generally think they feel flexy, I've seen the bleed ports stripped, and I don't like the 4 pads idea. But I've felt some that have a short throw, firm end, and good bite in the parking lot. Maybe too fat a lever blade for me.
Most* Shimano brakes work great and the 4 pistons have great power. They usually* bleed easily and thoroughly. The cheapest model is functionally the same as the most expensive so great value. *Occassionally I see weird issues with the master and slave cylinders. Hopefully you don't get one of these duds. The odds are in your favor and warranty exists. I use Shimano 2 pistons on most of my MTBs and 4 pistons on my DH bike.
Sram: Very easy to perfectly bleed. The Code and Guide RSCs have great feel and the Codes have great power. They're what I use on heavy Sur-rons (w/220 rotors). The R models have something else different besides the of lack lever stroke adjustment because they have a longer stroke and usually also feel spongy.
My Trickstuff trail brakes feel almost perfect (lever shape, stroke, firmness. pivot placement keeps it from perfect), great weight and looks, almost great power, okay to bleed. I'm guessing the DH brakes follow suit. I don't know how you're supposed to get them, which makes the cost almost irrelevent. Mine came on a Scott Spark Ultimate.
Hope: I was disappointed in the power of the enduro E4. The DH V4 is supposed to have more power at the cost of a longer lever throw.
Magura: I generally think they feel flexy, I've seen the bleed ports stripped, and I don't like the 4 pads idea. But I've felt some that have a short throw, firm end, and good bite in the parking lot. Maybe too fat a lever blade for me.
Im in a love affair with TRP these days but the pivot came with 8120 XTs, and they fucking rock, for now.
Jesus, if Shimano could figure out their QC beyond a year or two of use they'd own the market.
* I'm using sintered Miles Racing pads, those rock too.
Jesus, if Shimano could figure out their QC beyond a year or two of use they'd own the market.
* I'm using sintered Miles Racing pads, those rock too.
Got Shimano? Get a Bleed Cup and their oil.
At first sign of wandering bite point, Bleed Cup the lever. That's all you really have to do. No syringes, no caliper jackassery. Really. Bleed Cup the f*ck out of the lever. Takes less than a beer's worth of time.
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At first sign of wandering bite point, Bleed Cup the lever. That's all you really have to do. No syringes, no caliper jackassery. Really. Bleed Cup the f*ck out of the lever. Takes less than a beer's worth of time.
My 2 cents. YMMV. Like and subscribe. OMGWTFBBQ. MBA PMP Certified SAFe Agilist. (Now I'm just making fun of people I work with) Oh and for the dentists, ADA approved.