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Discussion in 'Politics & World News' started by spurlicked, Aug 6, 2009.

  1. spurlicked

    spurlicked Monkey

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    From the White House...

    "There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can’t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we’re asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov."

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts-Are-Stubborn-Things/
     
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  2. kidwoo

    kidwoo Celebrating No-Pants Day

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  3. X3pilot

    X3pilot Texans fan - LOL

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    Simple really, they just want to keep tracking numbers of how many Americans are exercising their first amendment rights. It's all to help you in the end. You can trust your government.
     
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  4. jonKranked

    jonKranked Press Button, Receive Stupid

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    I'll send them all the 411 emails I get. Maybe they need some penis pills too.
     
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  5. sanjuro

    sanjuro Tube Smuggler

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    Hey, spurlicked, who is your health insurance provider?
     
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  6. ohio

    ohio The Fresno Kid

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    Yeah, I could see how debunking misinformation is a violation of your freedoms.

    Try, just try, to explain the mechanism by which you have fewer freedoms as a result of this.
     
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    dante Unabomber

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    They should just tap phones without wiretaps and read emails without you knowing it. That would be a much better way to safeguard our freedom...
     
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  8. spurlicked

    spurlicked Monkey

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    why does that matter?
     
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  9. spurlicked

    spurlicked Monkey

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    Oh it wont be immediate, but is slowly going away.

    Debunking misinformation? Why are they (the government) putting out misinformation? Do you really trust this government? Do you?

    Explain to me why it's ok for anyone to send the White House my emails. And define "fishy"? That word right there explains what they are looking for.
     
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    Secret Squirrel There is no Justice!

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    Wat?


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  11. jimmydean

    jimmydean The Official Meat of Ridemonkey

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    :stupid:

    I would say Fox News is my #1 source for misinformation.
     
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    kidwoo Celebrating No-Pants Day

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    Like what?
     
  13. spurlicked

    spurlicked Monkey

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    Like that I get to keep my heath care the way it is. Yet Abamo and his administration want a single payer system. Why did Congress and the Senate try to shove it through without reading the bill? Why would anyone trust them? If anything is "fishy" it's what they do behind closed doors early in the morning.
     
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    Westy the teste

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    Love it or leave it!
     
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    kidwoo Celebrating No-Pants Day

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  16. spurlicked

    spurlicked Monkey

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    yeah... that's what made America great... run away from it.

    roll over and let me pat your belly... ohhh doesn't that feel good? your such a good little puppy
     
  17. rikbar

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    Hi, where from the government and we are here to help you.
     
  18. ohio

    ohio The Fresno Kid

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    Whoa there, Quixote. Quick history lesson: under Rove, the Republicans figured out they could launch cheap effective underground campaigns by simply making things up but allowing them to spread organically. During the presidential campaign, Obama's team very effectively fought this with a site called fightthesmears.com.

    In the midst of this healthcare battle, some of the most powerful lobbies in the nation (healthcare and pharma) are trying the same smear tactics in an effort to dupe you, maintain the status quo and possibly even secure more taxpayer subsidies for their corporations. Obama is simply using the same method that worked well in the past: air the claim, and debunk it. It takes a citizen who reads one of the crappy forwards you've just sent (like that other POS thread you started) to say to themself "this looks like a pile of lies" to send it in, and if it can be debunked it will be. No one is going to show up at your door about anything you forward, except maybe some annoyed friends to tell you "stop raping my inbox with those tinfoil hat bull**** forwards."

    But hey, if you want to keep being a tool of the healthcare lobby and hand your taxpayer money over to companies that exists to squeeze the most possible money out of you for the least possible care, you have the freedom to do so.
     
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    sanjuro Tube Smuggler

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    I bet you wouldn't be running your mouth if the answer was "none".
     
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    sanjuro Tube Smuggler

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    Like Cheney's Energy Policy Meetings of 2000?
     
  21. stevew

    stevew unique white person

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    anyone have n8's email to forward?
     
  22. spurlicked

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    Before he was elected: “I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer universal health care program. I see no reason why the United States of America, the wealthiest country in the history of the world, spending 14 percent of its gross national product on health care, cannot provide basic health insurance to everybody. And that’s what Jim is talking about when he says everybody in, nobody out. A single-payer health care plan, a universal health care plan. That’s what I’d like to see. But as all of you know, we may not get there immediately. Because first we’ve got to take back the White House, we’ve got to take back the Senate, and we’ve got to take back the House.”

    “I would hope that we could set up a system that allows those who can go through their employer to access a federal system or a state pool of some sort. But I don’t think we’re going to be able to eliminate employer coverage immediately. There’s going to be potentially some transition process. I can envision a decade out or 15 years out or 20 years out where we’ve got a much more portable system. Employers still have the option of providing coverage, but many people may find that they get better coverage, or at least coverage that gives them more for health care dollars than they spend outside of their employer. And I think we’ve got to facilitate that and let individuals make that choice to transition out of employer coverage.”

    Prove that I will!
     
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    MMike A fowl peckerwood.

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    Go back to Moscow!!
     
  24. stoney

    stoney Part of the unwashed, middle-American horde

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    What was his name... Oh right, McCarthy. :eek:
     
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    sanjuro Tube Smuggler

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    Dude, your Canadien. STFU or we will invade.
     
  26. Silver

    Silver find me a tampon

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    Like an American is smart enough to find Canada on a map...
     
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    dante Unabomber

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    I miss N8. He'd at least post a link to something controvertial but that would be about it, some of the new "conservatives" on here just stand up and paraphrase something that they heard on Fauxnews and don't even get *that* right.
     
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    dante Unabomber

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    Awesome, you dug up a speech from 2003. Got anything else there Sherlock Holmes?
     
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    kidwoo Celebrating No-Pants Day

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    You didn't prove shlt.


    You know the difference between what was stated in a campaign (6 years ago?) and what's actually being pushed through?

    It's not a singlepayer system and it's not designed to keep you from your current setup.
     
  30. spurlicked

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    Both sides smear each other... I don't give a rip about Karl Rove.
    But it is ok for the government to read and keep my emails.
    You assume that I like it the way it is. Maybe I do and maybe I don't. That isn't the point. What I don't want is the government running our entire heath care.

    What was the POS thread I started? The joke about Pelosi?

    :thumb:
     
  31. spurlicked

    spurlicked Monkey

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    I'll have to continue this colorful discussion with you fellas later. I have a right wing conspiracy meeting to go to.

    Dios le bendiga:wait:
     
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    spurlicked Monkey

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    It just shows where his heart is Dolly.
     
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    kidwoo Celebrating No-Pants Day

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    And shows how cluless you are as the exact content of what's being pushed through congress right now.
     
  34. spurlicked

    spurlicked Monkey

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    bet I would
     
  35. spurlicked

    spurlicked Monkey

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    OK, with that said, we are all clueless to what he/they are going to do.
     
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    spurlicked Monkey

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    That's worse than me digging up a quote from 2003. Let's forward emails about that to the White House.
     
  37. spurlicked

    spurlicked Monkey

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    Enlighten us.. Please, with the EXACT content.
     
  38. spurlicked

    spurlicked Monkey

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    ...incrementally. One step at a time.
     
  39. Silver

    Silver find me a tampon

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    The NSA has been reading every email you've sent in the last 10 years.

    There's nothing sinister here, unless you believe that someone hitting forward on an email you sent them is a first amendment violation.
     
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    Step 1. A friend of mine forwards an email to the White House
    Step 2. My health insurance is revoked
    Step 3.
    Step 4. Profit

    There! I proved it! Try to prove me wrong.