goodridge lines on hope m6's ????

Orvan · Oct 29, 2004

My only experience with goodridge is through Acadian.

D_D · Oct 29, 2004

I haven't used them on the any of the mono brakes but I have used them on an old style m4 and mini. I can't feel any difference between them and standard lines. I have been using them for just over a year and they are a lot more kink resistant than standard lines. Also over the long term I think they might hold up better than the stock lines, the stock lines appear to set in shape and become a little brittle after a while, my goodridge lines are just as flexable as when they came out of the box.
I would not buy them again unless I was having problems with the stock lines.

Acadian · Oct 29, 2004

They are super solid...I've been using them as close lines to hang my armor and they have been holding up great! :rolleyes:

I sould of waited and got some of those red lines to match the read trim on my Dainese armor!

Acadian · Oct 29, 2004

partsbara said:
we all know you re a poseur and the worlds greatest e biker... ... but honestly, not a worthwhile upgrade on the m6's ???

don't know...I don't own M6's! :devil:

I own goodridge lines tho...and I'm not kidding when I say they are hanging on the wall...

Kornphlake · Oct 29, 2004

Why doesn't somebody make air brakes, it could be done with some kind of pressure equalizing valve on the master cylinder where the system is always exposed to atmospheric pressure except when the lever is pulled, thatway thermal expansion wouldn't be an issue, unless you were dragging your brakes all the way down a long hill, then your brake lever would firm up but all it would take would be to release the lever quickly and let the pressure blow off then get back on the brakes. Besides the weight savings guys like Acadian wouldn't take 5 days to bleed their brakes, the problem would become, "I got oil in my lines" instead of, "I got air in my lines." This is not in any way related to goodridge brake lines but it is the thread that inspired the thought.

Curb Hucker · Oct 29, 2004

partsbara said:
ahhh, ok then... you had them on hopes tho' yeah ?? why aren t you using them...

waste of money ya reckon ???

thanks for ya help

parts

Luc had bleeding problems with them, enough problems for several threads about his crappy bleeding :blah:

I know a guy with the goodritches on his M6s and i cant tell any difference between them and stock lines. Hope has probably the best OEM lines of any brake out there

Orvan · Oct 29, 2004

It's the number one "unnecessary upgrade award" nominee of the year. Second to....nevermind..

buildyourown · Oct 29, 2004

Kornphlake said:
Why doesn't somebody make air brakes, it could be done with some kind of pressure equalizing valve on the master cylinder where the system is always exposed to atmospheric pressure except when the lever is pulled, thatway thermal expansion wouldn't be an issue, unless you were dragging your brakes all the way down a long hill, then your brake lever would firm up but all it would take would be to release the lever quickly and let the pressure blow off then get back on the brakes. Besides the weight savings guys like Acadian wouldn't take 5 days to bleed their brakes, the problem would become, "I got oil in my lines" instead of, "I got air in my lines." This is not in any way related to goodridge brake lines but it is the thread that inspired the thought.

Air compresses much more than brake fluid so your brakes would be feel spongy. Air brakes on trucks are still hydraulic, they use air to actuate the master cyclinder.

Joe Pozer · Oct 29, 2004

I have M4s...

When the stock line for my rear brake got cut I replaced it with a Goodridge and I couldn't tell a difference between the two in feel or stopping power.

Brian HCM#1 · Oct 29, 2004

I didn't like them on my O4's, made them feel worse than Hayes. After installing several on last years M4's, the different was barely noticable, so I don't think that would be much different than any Mono you'd put them on. Is it worth the $..................Nope.

Brian HCM#1 · Oct 29, 2004

partsbara said:
ahhh, ok then... you had them on hopes tho' yeah ?? why aren t you using them...

waste of money ya reckon ???

thanks for ya help

parts

Because the knucklehead couldn't bleed them and was too stubborn to ask for my help, and when I offered several times, he told me no :nope:

.

Kornphlake · Oct 29, 2004

buildyourown said:
Air compresses much more than brake fluid so your brakes would be feel spongy. Air brakes on trucks are still hydraulic, they use air to actuate the master cyclinder.

I know there are hurdles to using the theory but I'd bet that with the right size master cylinder and piston and brake line diameter you could minimize the spongieness. You might have to find a way to get rotors and pads to stay perfectly flat through a range of temperatures to avoid drag. We've got a brilliant genius type engineer who insists just about everything can be done with pneumatics. He mentioned a pneumatic refrigerator once, some how they put air into a cylinder that is open on both ends such that the air swirls around, the more dense cold air runs to the outside because of centripital force and the hot air exhausts through the center of the cylinder... I'll make a pneumatic brake and call the spongieness something clever like modulation, claim it is the only brake made to modulate.

math2014 · Oct 29, 2004

i got GR lines on XTs and they make a lot of difference. People in the UK having hope brakes are seriously considering them (m4,m6), i guess they know something, personally i havent tried the combo.

Just wait for a proper brake

(brembo).

Acadian · Oct 29, 2004

Brian HCM#1 said:
I didn't like them on my O4's, made them feel worse than Hayes. After installing several on last years M4's, the different was barely noticable, so I don't think that would be much different than any Mono you'd put them on. Is it worth the $..................Nope.

but I know you would still by some more.

neaky:

spookydave · Oct 29, 2004

This is what you put s.s. braided lines on.

Brian HCM#1 · Oct 29, 2004

spookydave said:
This is what you put s.s. braided lines on.

Exactally, or a good quality Beer bong :evil:

Brian HCM#1 · Oct 29, 2004

Acadian said:
but I know you would still by some more. neaky:

by some more? how about buy :nope:

and nope won't buy any for myself.

spookydave · Oct 29, 2004

Brian HCM#1 said:
Exactally, or a good quality Beer bong :evil:

beer bongs need clear lines so you can tell when the air's out of it. See this example.

James | Go-Ride · Oct 29, 2004

Most people we've talked to haven't noticed some insanely different feel at the lever; you just never have to worry about kinking the line or having it pull off the banjo or something like that. I know it sounds minor but that's the sort of thing that always seems to happen at the worst possible moment, ie practice run the morning of the race or something like that.

Orvan · Oct 29, 2004

James | Go-Ride said:
Most people we've talked to haven't noticed some insanely different feel at the lever; you just never have to worry about kinking the line or having it pull off the banjo or something like that. I know it sounds minor but that's the sort of thing that always seems to happen at the worst possible moment, ie practice run the morning of the race or something like that.

I just bring two extra Hope M4s and a set of Hayes (for my buddies who'd break them and whine about it)

- 4 dh tubes (thorn resistant tubes that is, cheapest dh tube ever)
- spare odi grips
- spare brake pads for hope, hayes, shimano (I tell ya, I look after my buddies' equipment too)
- rotors, 185-205 and hayes 8" (for the suckas)
- spare handlebar
- spare stems
- spare tiresssssssssssssss in sizes
- spare cables and housing, ferrules
- spare derailleurssssssssss and parts
- spare shifters
- spare pedalsssssssss and parts
- spare crankset
- spare seatpost and saddles
- bleedkit for shimano, hopes, hayes and Dorado TPC+ chamber
- shock oil, motor oil for manitou lube
- and tons of stuff I bring all the time at the races in my big red plastic container......

and it's fockin Friday...hee ha!

Bulldog · Oct 29, 2004

Orven said:
I just bring two extra Hope M4s and a set of Hayes (for my buddies who'd break them and whine about it)

- 4 dh tubes (thorn resistant tubes that is, cheapest dh tube ever)
- spare odi grips
- spare brake pads for hope, hayes, shimano (I tell ya, I look after my buddies' equipment too)
- rotors, 185-205 and hayes 8" (for the suckas)
- spare handlebar
- spare stems
- spare tiresssssssssssssss in sizes
- spare cables and housing, ferrules
- spare derailleurssssssssss and parts
- spare shifters
- spare pedalsssssssss and parts
- spare crankset
- spare seatpost and saddles
- bleedkit for shimano, hopes, hayes and Dorado TPC+ chamber
- shock oil, motor oil for manitou lube
- and tons of stuff I bring all the time at the races in my big red plastic container......

and it's fockin Friday...hee ha!

Damn! I take an allen block, a tube and a tire pump. LOL.

UiUiUiUi · Oct 30, 2004

hey partsie

you know my opinion...
they are better and easier to fit then original hope lines
not worth the outragous (retail)price though.

so if you get them for about 20 bucks a brake ok...
but more: NO

i have my goodridge lines on older M4s.

Brian HCM#1 · Oct 30, 2004

UiUiUiUi said:
hey partsie

you know my opinion...
they are better and easier to fit then original hope lines
not worth the outragous (retail)price though.

so if you get them for about 20 bucks a brake ok...
but more: NO

i have my goodridge lines on older M4s.

They route fine for a rear, but I don't like them on a inverted fork, I prefer the rigidity of the stock Hope line.

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