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IH8Rice

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is a cross between firefox and IE, and has not worked on my computer.
FAIL!

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reported error as "browser crash...go boom"
 
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It isn't a cross between anything. It's a new generation of web browser written from the ground up in a completely different way.

From the way it handles security, to separate tabs. Everything is sandboxed, each page and object (a java script, a flash file etc) run in their own processes. It is quite unique and a complete rethink of how a browser should be constructed.

It's a public beta, thinking it will work on everyone's machine first run out is a bit ridiculous.
 

IH8Rice

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It isn't a cross between anything. It's a new generation of web browser written from the ground up in a completely different way.

From the way it handles security, to separate tabs. Everything is sandboxed, each page and object (a java script, a flash file etc) run in their own processes. It is quite unique and a complete rethink of how a browser should be constructed.

It's a public beta, thinking it will work on everyone's machine first run out is a bit ridiculous.
icons and some features are similar to IE and FF...they even mention taking components from Firefox and apple's webkit
i understand its a new design, but how are the tabs any different than whats been done already?
and granted their concept on "sandboxxing" each tab from each other is great...just wished it worked.

and i didnt think it would be perfect as a first public beta, but it aint working on 3 of my computers....hell their site about the product isnt even working really

incognito mode would be good if i didnt care how much porn showed up on my history.
 
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DamienC

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I just installed it on my XP machine and it works fine. No problems so far with Java and Flash.
 

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tis not working for me but im at work, only IE and Safari work here. Anyone know any tricks to make chrome or FF 3 work?
 

Squeak

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I have a hard time installing a browser from a company that's entire purpose is gathering marketing information and pushing you adds.

That said I will probably try it out anyway. :)
 

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icons and some features are similar to IE and FF...they even mention taking components from Firefox and apple's webkit
i understand its a new design, but how are the tabs any different than whats been done already?
and granted their concept on "sandboxxing" each tab from each other is great...just wished it worked.

and i didnt think it would be perfect as a first public beta, but it aint working on 3 of my computers....hell their site about the product isnt even working really

incognito mode would be good if i didnt care how much porn showed up on my history.
Each tab runs as it's own process (or set thereof). The "application" runs as one process. Then the rendering engine handles RM in one process, CNN.com runs in another rendering engine instance, in it's own process. Then each object on those pages (JS/Flash/Ruby etc) runs as ITS own process. This way if something has a memory leak it doesn't bring the entire computer to a crawl, if something crashes JS you don't lose your whole browser etc.

The sandboxing is dependent on this. Each process is jailed. It can't spawn a popup, it can't install anything, it can't snoop on you.

From an application architecture standpoint, it is genius.
 

IH8Rice

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Each tab runs as it's own process (or set thereof). The "application" runs as one process. Then the rendering engine handles RM in one process, CNN.com runs in another rendering engine instance, in it's own process. Then each object on those pages (JS/Flash/Ruby etc) runs as ITS own process. This way if something has a memory leak it doesn't bring the entire computer to a crawl, if something crashes JS you don't lose your whole browser etc.

The sandboxing is dependent on this. Each process is jailed. It can't spawn a popup, it can't install anything, it can't snoop on you.

From an application architecture standpoint, it is genius.
point taken. i understand the design concept on this part, but thats the only thing really unique and different with this browser
 

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point taken. i understand the design concept on this part, but thats the only thing really unique and different with this browser
That one unique part is the entire point of it.

It is written from the ground up for modern day browsing behavior and to counter modern risks. All the other browsers out there are designed around the 1997 web. Things have changed, drastically.

It's about bringing web browsers up to date with current browsing habits and dangers, and allowing for expansion in the future (though gears architecture) as well as cross software compatibility (ie: no more ie insanity).

As an ex-developer, this is HUGE. If I was still doing that full time I would be regarding chrome as the holy grail.
 

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My Nuts Are Flat
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Hopefully those processes have a tiny footprint. Or I'm in trouble if I run it. :monkeydance:
They do. They also FULLY return memory to the pool when you close a tab (end the process). This doesn't happen now and is why when you a ton of tabs open and then close them, things don't get faster. Fragmenting and leaks mean that not all memory gets returned, so it grabs more memory.

It is a larger footprint with 1 or 2 windows, and then it falls drastically from there, as well as over time with 1 or 2 windows.
 

IH8Rice

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That one unique part is the entire point of it.

It is written from the ground up for modern day browsing behavior and to counter modern risks. All the other browsers out there are designed around the 1997 web. Things have changed, drastically.
well then im curious, why do you think FF3 didnt change its crashing habits? or use something similar to this?
 

SkaredShtles

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They do. They also FULLY return memory to the pool when you close a tab (end the process). This doesn't happen now and is why when you a ton of tabs open and then close them, things don't get faster. Fragmenting and leaks mean that not all memory gets returned, so it grabs more memory.
This has been a historically big gripe with FF.

It is a larger footprint with 1 or 2 windows, and then it falls drastically from there, as well as over time with 1 or 2 windows.
Hmmm.... if they have some way to block ads from Google, I might try this new browser. :D
 

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My Nuts Are Flat
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well then im curious, why do you think FF3 didnt change its crashing habits? or use something similar to this?
Because it requires a complete rewrite. No reusing bits of code. It's a huge process and honestly, hard to do when you already have shipping products and a team that is fully invested themselves into those projects.

Starting fresh, fresh team, fresh ideas is really the only way to do it.
 

IH8Rice

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Your FF3 crashes?


Mine doesn't.
all the f-ing time
Because it requires a complete rewrite. No reusing bits of code. It's a huge process and honestly, hard to do when you already have shipping products and a team that is fully invested themselves into those projects.

Starting fresh, fresh team, fresh ideas is really the only way to do it.
makes sense
 

binary visions

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It's not crashing because your machine is a Dell :rolleyes:

Interesting about Chrome... will have to check it out.
 

APIOQM

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Gonna try it now...

Edit: Editing from Google chrome, one thing I noticed, I can no longer middle click and drag to get down pages :(
 
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IH8Rice

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It's not crashing because your machine is a Dell :rolleyes:

Interesting about Chrome... will have to check it out.
yeah i know its not dell's fault they make a crappy computer w/ crappy parts...i did try to change the about.config settings to make it faster

Dude...
You got a Dell...

i wish my dell computers came with a party sized bong like that dude got.