got a kick out of this - fox disclaimer

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  1. ÆX

    ÆX Turbo Monkey

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  2. johnbryanpeters

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    "Use of FOX forks with any tire larger than 26 inches, such as a 650b tire, will subject the FOX fork to loads and forces it has not been designed or certified to meet. FOX 32, 36, and 40 suspension forks are not recommended or approved by FOX Factory, Inc. for use with tires larger than 26 inches, either as original equipment or aftermarket."

    Absolutely silly. Why, no one ever files idiotic law suits in these parts!
     
  3. Wumpus

    Wumpus makes avatars better

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    What's silly is that someone used 650b and then tried to warranty the fork after they bottomed it out.:busted:
     
  4. jdcamb

    jdcamb Tool Time!

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    Hah thats funny. Do you think they posted that to serve notice? Most of that legalize is already in the warranty.
     
  5. Austin Bike

    Austin Bike Turbo Monkey

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    I would bet that they are seeing a large number of warranty claims with the wrong size tire and they are trying to head it off at the pass.

    Yeah, the legal wording is all in the warranty, but nobody reads that and you only really realize it until it is too late.

    We're all talking about it and now the word is spreading.
     
  6. Mike B.

    Mike B. Turbo Monkey

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    I'm sure it has nothing to do with a certain someone milling the crowns to fit big wheels :pirate2:

    Just don't run anything over a 559x1.9" tire now since it will be bigger than 26"
     
  7. HAB

    HAB Chelsea from Seattle

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    Or tried to sue to pay for the resulting medical costs. :busted:
     
  8. DirtyMike

    DirtyMike Turbo Fluffer

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    Anyone remember the Redbull Roadrage. There were a couple of 32's running 650 wheels. Im thinking this might be a result of that. At least thats the first thing that comes to my mind
     
  9. moff_quigley

    moff_quigley Why don't you have a seat over there?

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    First thing that comes to my mind is that BCD has modded a 40 and at least one 36 to fit 29er wheels. Surprised he hasn't gotten a series of cease and desist PM's etc. :busted:
     
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    sanjuro Tube Smuggler

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    Dude, that 25 millimeters of difference. In case you didn't know, that's one inch of diameter, in case you plan on rolling your 26 x 1 1/2 tires.

    That does seem really weird. I wonder if what really happened is someone ran the bigger wheel and flipped over when the tire got caught on the fork bridge.
     
  11. FrontRangeDH

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    I was gonna say BCD too, but I remember a few years ago Lenz Sport was at Keystone with a eccentric front hub which allowed you to run a 29er wheel in a 36 without modding. So my guess is something between those two sparked something. I doubt Alex is going to sue Fox for the mods he has done to their forks
     
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    Sounds logical that they don't recommend running a wheel that wouldn't fit. Duh.

    Fox does however make an oem only 29" fork but they have a exclusive deal with specialized. Impossible for anybody else to get.
     
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    The photos of that work about made me crap my pants.
     
  14. Transcend

    Transcend My Nuts Are Flat

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    Nope. It's more as a result of BCD dremeling out a fox 40 arch to fit a 29" tire.
     
  15. ThePriceSeliger

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    Saw Alex this morning. He was laughing about it when he told me. He found it to be more funny than insulting. I don't think he really cares. He knows what he's doing, and if something were to happen, he wouldn't blame anyone but himself, and maybe me for making fun of him.
     
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    Also; after two world cup races on it, it seems that it's not going to fail. It's also been used for a few more random races, and no sign of failure. Now everyone, send us your forks!
     
  17. syadasti

    syadasti i heart mac

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    Nope, anyone can get them, 100mm version in-stock now:

    http://www.speedgoat.com/product.asp?part=129521&cat=34&brand=303
     
  18. Transcend

    Transcend My Nuts Are Flat

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    I am pretty sure Fox knew what they were doing when they designed the arch the way it is. It's that way for a reason, chopping out a large section is probably not a great idea.

    As you say however, Alex probably wouldn't blame anyone but himself were it to fail and explode, slamming his face into the earth.


    Please explain to me why i'd be bitter about someone butchering a perfectly good fork that they own?
     
  19. pinkshirtphotos

    pinkshirtphotos site moron

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    soon as i get my 29er alex will be getting a pm about a fork being sent to him.
     
  20. ÆX

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    thanks, i'll do it. i am in head deep now!
     
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    pinkshirtphotos site moron

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    bcd is my unofficial hero.
     
  22. splat

    splat Nam I am

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    OK BCD , how did fox find out about you ?
     
  23. ThePriceSeliger

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    They saw him at a WC, but maybe in AngleFire? Or pictures all around the web.
     
  24. DirtyMike

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    Ah, never saw that thread, Now I have. Looks a little scary, but if its working for him then cool go for it, as for me, I am going to stick with my 26 inch wheels
     
  25. ÆX

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    doing this HAS to be done by someone who knows
    how. w/o reducing the travel @ full bottom you will
    OTB, duuuu. i know how to reduce the 36 for forks.
    40 you just run what ever travel you want and slide
    in crown to clear your tire.

    with that out of the way,........

    if the arch broke it would just
    become an inverted noodle fork.
    no death involved. but fox needs
    to cover there arss form dumb people,
    understandable.
     
  26. pinkshirtphotos

    pinkshirtphotos site moron

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    transcend, i don't consider bcd milling out a fork "butchering" i think of it as revolutionary. how was mountain biking started? from what i here people started riding road bikes off road. i bet there was people then saying, psh what a waste of a good road bike. yet look at our sport now, and the amount of technology we use. if bcd's creations become more popular you never know what can happen in the next few years.


     
  27. loco-gringo

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    If there is a remote chance that a fork will fail with the mods, I'll pay you to do one for pinkshirtphotos. Pick tires up. Whatever, you name the price. :D
     
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    pinkshirtphotos site moron

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    i have had a fork fail on me, it was a quick release and it wasnt pretty. i would be willing to take the risk of riding one of the forks
     
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    ThePriceSeliger Mushhead

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    I honestly don't think it will break. It should be just fine. Alex knows what he is doing. If he though it was a bad idea, he wouldn't do it.
     
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    Mebbe, but I doubt it.

    In order to get weight down, design margin today tends to get reduced to the absolute minimum necessary so as to minimize weight while keeping the assembly sufficiently strong. I have a hard time believing that Fox left enough meat in the arch to justify removing that much material.

    You can ride something like that just like you can ride standing up in the back of a pickup truck, hein?
     
  31. jdcamb

    jdcamb Tool Time!

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    I modded my frame. I made a good design IMO better. If I could mod my fork, rear shock, brakes or whatever to make it work better then I would. I like my sh!t to perform the best it possibly can. I don't settle for it works. I'm pretty handy, its fun, and I'm worth it. So I may have added some additional risk to myself according to some dilbert in legal..
     
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    Oh we got edited... I wonder who did it?
     
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    Truth be said, I dont think it will be much longer before fox makes a 6 plus in travel 29 fork anyways, I would guess they will make one in a 40 first, seeing how 29er's are getting popular fast. I will not be suprized to see someone running the new niner out at southridge this year, nor will I be suprised to see them when we go to mammoth either.
     
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    pinkshirtphotos site moron

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    once i get a my fox fork modded into a 29er fork, i will ride it like it should be ridden. if it broke i would fix it with some carbon fibre support.
     
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    That's pretty funny....:monkey:
     
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    HAB Chelsea from Seattle

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    I don't know about that. Look how long it took them to come out with an XC 29er fork. Someone will beat them to it.
     
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    Yeah I am not a fan of 29ers myself, but people like them, and the industry follows what consumers want. Maybe its just my area, but we are seeing alot mre of them latley, even had to update our truing stand.
     
  38. binary visions

    binary visions The voice of reason

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    Cleaned up the nastiness. Let's keep the fights out of this, okay?
     
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    Oh fine. Touche sir.
     
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    pinkshirtphotos site moron

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    thanks bv, thinking about ordering a fox 36 talas r, but looking for the axle to crown height. im going to order a haro mary ss, in that dope carolina blue colour.... then throw the fork on it oh boy cant wait. i like how the fork has adjustable travel, great for riding here on the east coast. i just dont want to rake out the front of the bike any more then i have to