N8 said:Even worse... public school grads do...
What about public grad schools?
N8 said:Even worse... public school grads do...
Wow. That guy belongs in the SoCal forum.jdschall said:One monkey's crusade:
(follow the links in order)
The offending post:
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1971216&postcount=14
My response:
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1972153&postcount=15
His (dim)witty retort:
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1973274&postcount=33
And then it carries on to another thread:
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145492&highlight=punctuation
It's all so pointless.
It doesn't make someone more intelligent, but it sure does come across as more intelligent.pnj said:I also fail to see how memorizing the english language in the manner that others think is the "correct" way makes one more intelligent then someone else
there were no promotions at that job. I went and dunn quite that won thow...binary visions said:In normal conversation with your peers, do you typically allow yourself to say things that make you appear stupid? Would you say to random people in your office, "boy, I ain't not gonna try that there coffee again"?
Thoughts and opinions usually carry more weight when they are expressed in an articulate and intelligible way.
As for your boss... I guess you weren't looking for a promotion in that job, eh?
In addition to what BV just said, most people do not aquire good grammar through memorization. Most people who have good grammar also read alot. While I don't typically display it here, I have grammar and spelling skills that English teachers love. And it's not because I memorized the rules of grammar.binary visions said:It doesn't make someone more intelligent, but it sure does come across as more intelligent.
Most people who are being "grammar nazis" aren't being unreasonable and picking on little inconsistancies (it's not like I point out that someone ended a sentence with a preposition). It's the total lack of effort from someone like Bearmntpicnic that's stupid.
In normal conversation with your peers, do you typically allow yourself to say things that make you appear stupid? Would you say to random people in your office, "boy, I ain't not gonna try that there coffee again"?
Thoughts and opinions usually carry more weight when they are expressed in an articulate and intelligible way.
As for your boss... I guess you weren't looking for a promotion in that job, eh?
You missed a period at the end of that post....n00b.Ciaran said:In addition to what BV just said, most people do not aquire good grammar through memorization. Most people who have good grammar also read alot. While I don't typically display it here, I have grammar and spelling skills that English teachers would die for. And it's not because I memorized the rules of grammar.
Having a command of your native language not only denotes intelligence, it allows you to get other people to do what you want them to. If you can phrase it correctly, you can get anyone to do anything. Not to mention having the ability to better express yourself and make people understand you. (Which brings up anther point... the ability to communicate on ALL levels.... sometimes you have to speak to the lowest common denominator)
SEE!!!! What did I say about having your ducks in a row and your **** wired tight?!?!?!I Are Baboon said:You missed a period at the end of that post....n00b.
Westy said:
Baboon,I Are Baboon said:You missed a period at the end of that post....n00b.
sunny said:Baboon,
There is no such convention as a four-dot ellipsis. Please use a 3-dot ellipsis when expressing "trailing off into silence" in mid-sentence. However, a 3-dot ellipsis followed by a period is acceptable at the end of a sentence.
Respectfully,
Sunny
Grammar Civil Patrol
How do you feel about punctuation?bluebug32 said:I don't have a problem with correcting people's grammar (grammar and spelling are 2 diiferent things, BTW and I won't correct the latter because mine is nothing to write home about and I let myself slide on here)
I think I'm in :love:sunny said:Baboon,
There is no such convention as a four-dot ellipsis. Please use a 3-dot ellipsis when expressing "trailing off into silence" in mid-sentence. However, a 3-dot ellipsis followed by a period is acceptable at the end of a sentence.
Respectfully,
Sunny
Grammar Civil Patrol
Awesome.sunny said:YESSS!!!
(a custom title)
BWAHAHAHAHAA!
Sunny
Grammar Civil Patrol
Politely delivering grammatical bonks on the head to those who really need it.
The only reason it's okay, though, is for the reason she stated: it's an ellipse, followed by a period, indicating an omitted section and end of thought (or vice versa).bluebug32 said:True. However, 4 dots are okay if you are indicating that a large passage has been omitted
Rock on. You have my complete and total respectsunny said:YESSS!!!
(a custom title)
BWAHAHAHAHAA!
Sunny
Grammar Civil Patrol
Politely delivering grammatical bonks on the head to those who really need it.
Don't worry. I *bow* to her grammar Nazitude..........DRB said:I was sent here by SS but apparently he isn't the end all beat all of grammar nazis. SS, you can go kick yourself in the nuts, I'm only listening to Sunny in regards to grammar. BEOTCH.
That should be "I usually try to hint..." :eviltongubinary visions said:I usually try and hint when people are doing things as odd as making up words and using them.... but it depends on my relationship with them. If I like them and am friendly with them, I'll usually try and make a joke out of it or make it a very light/joking comment. Unless I have one of those, "you-abuse-me-and-I'll-abuse-you" relationships with them in which case let them have it
If I don't know the person or am not friendly with them, I just leave it alone.
I don't typically correct people outside of the internet, and I mostly only do it here when people are just being stupid and not even trying
johnbryanpeters said:That should be "I usually try to hint..." :eviltongu
Goddam I wish I could approve of this right now.johnbryanpeters said:That should be "I usually try to hint..." :eviltongu
I could make the argument that what I said could be correct but we both know that it's just semantics and that you're rightjohnbryanpeters said:That should be "I usually try to hint..." :eviltongu
narlus said:are you encroaching on my trademarked style?
i picked up the lack of capitalization during undergrad, independent of you, thank you very much. i did steal "tho" and "altho" from al3x, on the other hand.binary visions said:No, he still spells out "your" and "you're".
ellipses, inversion of the usual orientation of commas and spaces, and backquotes instead of apostrophes… <-- note actual ellipse vs. 3 periodsI Are Baboon said:y'all haven't seen the proper use of ellipses until you've seen Shocktower in action.
and everything else for that matter.Ciaran said:All I know about grammar nazi-ing is that you better be spot on with your own grammar.
and for those who don't mind old editions:jdschall said:I have a copy of that sitting on my desk.
Actually, that's not true. The standard convention is a 3-dot ellipsis regardless of the size of omission. When block quoting something that omits large segments, it is more acceptable to use a 3-asterisk quasi-ellipsis, like so:bluebug32 said:True. However, 4 dots are okay if you are indicating that a large passage has been omitted
And the only other general rule regarding ellipses is that 4 dots are permissible when the 4th dot is a period (or full-stop for the cross-pond wankers).If I was a royal bloody pedant, I'd be most likely to piss off everybody with the various things I'd do, such as:
* * *
So, that's why I don't act like a bloody pedantic member of the grammar schutzstapfel.
Bull's eye.Ciaran said:EVERYONE should own this book.
This is really funny... but no one has commented on what he's written.bluebug32 said: